Posted by Adam Debus on 1999-04-06
While I have learned quite a bit off of this list, this is the 8th
linux/windows war in 2 years. Frankly my blood pressure is high enough
without having to put up with this shit every 2 months. So I am going to
leave the list for a time. And just to mention it, I am sure I am not the
only one who gets turned off this list because of this. So i will stop back
in at a later date, or somebody e-mail me when this crap finally stops.
Thanks,
ADam,
He who is really peeved.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tcg@xxxx.xx.xx [mailto:tcg@xxxx.xx.xx]On Behalf Of Computer
> Consultant
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 2:48 PM
> To: tauvix@xxxxx.xx.xxx
> Subject: Ignorant Matt Pratt
>
>
>
> >Besides if glibc is so shit and nearly everything on a
> >linux/BSD box relies on it then why is linux/BSD
> >consistantly faster than 'doze?
>
> Bah, all your replies do is flame windows and promote flame
> wars. First of all, Windows is a GUI, linux is a text interface,
> that makes it faster. Secondly, Opensource or not, that has nothing
> to do with how good quality it is, most open source is complete and
> utter crap since it is written for ease of reading and portability
> for people who cannot think or figure stuff out on their own (That's why
> they need open source to begin with).
>
> And you speak for yourself when you say "They" can optimize
> better than "you" can. I am one of "them". I am one of the gods
> of programming, I am not a mere mortal like yourself. I do not look
> at something and say "They're good and better than me blah blah, I
> will use their crap". No, I figure out for myself, and try to do
> better, who says someone is better than me? I have my own mind,
> I do rely on someone else. I question how and why something works.
>
> Linux wasn't made by GOD or how you make it out to be, it's
> mostly crap. I freeze it all the time, emacs is slow as dog shit.
> And anything that's done in Linux can be done in DOS faster! As
> for C libraries, some DOS libs were optimized in Assembler where
> linsux crap was all written in C.
>
> >But seriously we should probably keep to the topic
> >here people.
>
> Yes, you should! And you can't even read! That's why it said
> "NON idiots" All you do is flame, I didn't start this flame war or any
> other, I just get sick of your ignorant replies. Someone asks a question
> you throw in 10 flames, READ MAN FILES or something stupid. If you don't
> have something good to say, don't fucking reply. I didn't flame
> weasle for
> using linux or promote anything during my C reply to him, yet you
> reply after
> I already helped him and start flaming everyone.
>
>
> Someday, you'll learn about computers. Until then, live in the
> world of the
> user, I'm the dream maker. I am the magic maker. I make what you use.
>
>
> Yes, forget Linus Toravolds and all those other people. I don't
> have idols,
> I'm not lame like that. They are just people, like me.
>
> All your posts are ignorant, I remeber you made some stupid
> sockets program
> and used port like 47 or something!!! Don't you know that ports 1024-5000
> are for user defined and ports below 1024 are already existant protocols?
> Yet when someone pointed this out you gave them an ignornat
> response, Oh, I
> don't need that blah blah, it's open crappy source (Which I could probably
> optimize). Yet you promote linux and open source, but ignore industry
> standards?
> How lame.
>
> For any newbies out there, don't follow his example. If you want
> to learn,
> do it.
> Don't rely on other people, you are your best optimizer. When I first
> started learning
> assembly, I had written 1 or 2 programs, someone sent me their operating
> system code
> and asked me to fix it. Like, I was a complete newbie, but I managed to
> fix their
> memory allocation and deallocation modules and optimize them. The one's
> inner loop
> when from 10 buggy instructions to 2 solid instructions. Here's a guy
> working on
> an Operating System for 5 years that sends a complete newbie code
> to debug,
> I was
> wondering, why's he making an OS! I didn't know anything about
> that stuff,
> yet
> I helped him out in more than one way. He even used some of my other code
> to convert strings and integers. He had a degree in EE and knew a lot of
> electronics.
> Yet he was making an OS and I contributed to it. So, why should you put
> anyone
> on a pedistal because of their accomplishments. They were once a
> newbie as
> well,
> who by questioning or making an effort to try something new they
> accomplished
> something. That's me. That's not Matt.
>
> Matt, if you don't want flames, don't post stupid comments. I am better
> than you
> obviously. Have fun being a typical computer user while I succeed beyond.
> This
> may be egotistical, but I am sick of your stupid comments when you
> obviously suck
> really bad.
>
> I am thinking about getting into electronics now, programming is becomming
> too easy.
> I mean, making toys like remote control cars and stupid dolls like ferby
> don't seem
> like they would be all that complex to make.
>
> If you just think about componets, ferby is a Motherboard with a
> sound card
> and
> motors hooked up thru ports. Now, of course that would be a bit big using
> something like a 386 or so with a sound blaster, but using a
> small processor
> like an 8085 or a motorola and then making the motherboard
> yourself, making
> the
> program in assembly and burn it on ROM chips sounds like fun. I
> don't know
> any electronics now, but I think that's the way to go, I need to
> get back to
> real programming. APIs are just too simple. I mean, I feel
> guilty when using
> sockets since it's too easy! I mean, what happened to hooking the IRQ,
> parcing all
> incomming bytes seperating the packets yourself into useable
> data. They do
> too
> much for you programming anymore is like cheating.
>
> I want to be the one who does that, who does the real programming
> for users
> like
> Matt to use blindly use without question.
>
>
> Matt, keep blindly using code other people write, read open source cause
> you can't think up stuff on your own and keep on ignoring
> industry standards!
> Way to go Matt!
>
> > > It supposidly runs all Win95/98 apps and replaces
> > > WinNT and Win9x.
> >
> > Funny, I heard different.
>
> "Supposidly" look it up. And like I mentioned, I haven't used/seen it,
> I was going by "Word of mouth" look that up too.
>
>
> > I guess neither of you have seen the glibc sources then eh?
>
> Bah, you praise little people like Linux Toravolds who basically all he
> did was come up with an IDEA. Yet you insult "Micheal Abrash" the
> programming and optimization _GOD_. John Carmack begged that guy
> to work at
> ID software.
> John Carmack infact learned PCs from that guy when he first switched from
> Amgias.
>
> >ADam,
> >he who still prefers linux, but reconizes the need to run the evil.
>
> Thanks Adam, for your honest reply. I don't condem those who
> want to run it,
> I condem those who are ignornat and stupid.
>
> >WOW!!! You are the greatest... Forget Linus Torvalds,
> >Alan Cox, RMS, Andrew Tridgell you are obviously far
> >superior in both intellect and penis size!!!!
>
> Jelousy is a bad thing. I guarentee I optimize and program
> better than you.
> You see those names listed? Mine will be one of them someday. As for you
> other newbies, you can either join me or become a Matt.
>
>
>
>
> P.S.
> Don't bother replying I have unsubscribed to this list until real
> programmers
> subscribe. No offense to anyone but Matt.
>
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