Reading Rating Complaints

Sep 04, 2002 01:12 # 5018

Hawkeye *** posts about...

Green rating utopia

82% | 5

Do all posts have to be dead serious? I think the comic contributions to a thread are just as important as the long 3 page posts about the thread. What would drama be without comedy? They go hand-in-hand. Shakespeare, as I'm sure all of you know, used comic relief in his plays to lighten the mood of the audience. http://www.netalive.org/run/topics/5000?unreadonly=1&find=unread#unread

My point being that yellow ratings should only be given to any post that wasn't given much thought. Red ratings should only be given to posts that are offensive in nature. And I might add I put plenty of thought into that joke just as I'm putting much thought into this one as well.

Can't we just live in a world where we all give ourselves green ratings? Obviously that won't be the case, but green ratings should be done by DEFAULT! Yellow and red, in my opinion, is a demerit and doesn't deserve to be delivered to an undeserving victim simply because the rater puts yellow if something inspiring or uplifting wasn't presented before him in the post.

Can't we all just strive to be better people and give green ratings? I think we can. :)

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This post was edited by Hawkeye on Sep 04, 2002.

Sep 04, 2002 03:03 # 5019

frank *** replies...

Re: Green rating utopia

83% | 2

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Sep 04, 2002 06:06 # 5023

Martin *** replies...

Re: Green rating utopia

97% | 3

I wonder how many people just post to get ratings, somehow I think that defeats the whole purpose right?

More than I like to believe thinking about how often this topic comes up again and again, how often people are complaining about a special rating behaviour of others. Why is it so damn important at all?? If we'd just understand its NOT an instrument to determine a ranking of good and better members, but to fight possible idiots attacking NAO! Everything beyond the first orange star doesn't matter anymore at all. Whether you have 3 red or 3 white stars doesn't make a difference in everyday use of NAO at all. So any single rating, whether its green or red, doesn't have any noticable effect for normal users (besides making some people cheer or cry obviously). Try to understand that and the whole rating business will lose its undeserved importance!

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Sep 04, 2002 07:59 # 5026

null rants...

Re: Green rating utopia

93% | 2

The point is now where do you go beyond having three white stars? Why is a green post worth anything now?

You can sort NAO's user list by rank and see what position you're at. :-) I'm currently at position 2 (second to Jaz), but Martin will probably overtake me once more soon. Hell, I'll need some green ratings to stay ahead of him. And I shouldn't have given him that green rating right now. Help!!

Seriously, call me naive if you want, but I think most higher-ranked NAO people are (should be) above such ranking fights. If you write a good post, write it for the sake of writing a good post, not because of the positive votes you might get for it. After all this place is about friendly discussions, not about who's got the bigger pipe!

I wonder how many people just post to get ratings, somehow I think that defeats the whole purpose right?

Do you? Who does?

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Sep 04, 2002 14:32 # 5031

Martin *** replies...

Beware!

95% | 2

I'm currently at position 2 (second to Jaz), but Martin will probably overtake me once more soon. Hell, I'll need some green ratings to stay ahead of him. And I shouldn't have given him that green rating right now. Help!!

LOL! You can cry for help as much as you please, there's no escape! To say it with "Bauer Joghurt": sooner or later we'll get you! HAHAHAhaha....

What d'you mean "once more"? Have I been at p2 already and lost it again? Tssss..., what a shame. Sorry, have to be off to think of some nice, important, long and impressive topics to post on NAO to collect MORE (yeah) greens and if I dont get I'll start crying at once and dont dare to rate this one yellow or I will hold my breath until you take it away again and I will never EVER talk to you again and you wont be my best friend anymore and I'll call my big brother so he will beat you up.

:-D

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Sep 04, 2002 15:24 # 5034

null laughs about...

Re: Beware!

:-)

You don't have a big brother.

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Sep 04, 2002 18:48 # 5050

Martin *** isn't happy...

Re: Beware!

?% | 1

You don't have a big brother.

Shit, how did you know?
Okay, don't tell anyone, promise?

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Sep 04, 2002 16:51 # 5038

Orchid *** can sympathize...

Re: Green rating utopia

I wonder how many people just post to get ratings (...) Who does?

Me!!! Me does!

No, not exactly. I post because I want to add or discuss something but I am always sad when my posts don't reach someone's "ear" and get rated anytime I think I wrote something good :-)

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Sep 04, 2002 07:39 # 5025

null shakes his head...

Re: Green rating utopia

93% | 2

I disagree. I only give green ratings for posts that, IMHO, are well written and have cost the writer some time to think about what they're trying to say. An average post usually doesn't get rated by me at all.

A yellow vote is still half-green. It's positive, not negative. Please do keep this in mind!

Plus, imagine the chaos if everybody had their own idea of what the three ratings mean.

Obviously that won't be the case, but green ratings should be done by DEFAULT!

How would you rate an above-average post then? Double-green? It wouldn't change anything, except making things more complicated. The green rating would only be changed to what 'no rating' does today. Same stuff with new colors.
Even a post with no ratings at all will get you ranked up, so what if not all of your posts get a green rating by every user?

Why do I feel like a yellow rating is just as bad as a red one?
(frank)

Because yellow is associated with negative feelings. We've already had a discussion whether to give it a slightly yellowish green, remember? :-)
Still, a yellow rate gets you ranked up, not down. It's only the color that's confusing.

No offense meant and stuff, but why is it so hard to just follow NAO's guidelines for rating? Trust me, Jaz has put many hours into making the rating system work well for everybody. All it needs is correct input, i.e. users who stick to those very basic rules.

Just follow NAO's guidelines for rating, don't cry when you don't get a green rating for everything you write, and everything will be just fine! That's the way the site works, anything else is counterproductive. GIGO, or "Garbage In Garbage Out". The site needs correct input in order to work properly. Correct input is input which follows these simple rules. Ofcourse there's a million ways to implement different rating systems, and that's perfectly okay for me. Just let's settle on one standard we all use.

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This post was edited by null on Sep 04, 2002.

Sep 04, 2002 10:10 # 5027

andromacha *** takes out her flame thrower...

Re: Green rating utopia

92% | 3

I totally agree with you, Hawkeye. I think that the comic part is important in every thread. There was an Italian writer, Luigi Pirandello, who gave great importance to comical and humorous part in a thread. He distinguished comic and humorous though.

Here is one of his stories which can show you my point of view. There was an old woman who used to put a lot of make-up on her face. Her face looked like a carnival mask, and everyone made fun of her. That's the comical side of the thread, which turns into humorous as soon as Pirandello says that the woman used to have so much make-up to try to appear young and beautiful.

My point is that everyone here shouldn't give a yellow or a green without thinking about it. And, null, a 2 lines post doesn't always deserve a yellow. Every rater should try to imagine the point of view of the writer when he wrote that post, and only in that way he can decide whether to give a green or a yellow rating.

I'm not defending Hawkeye, because I hope you understand I am impartial. I often posted something against his ideas (especially on the US attack to Iraq). But now, I find it unfair that someone rated him yellow for his post on cookies. It was just a funny thing. At the very least, you could avoid to rate him. And I also don't think it is fair that more than one rated me yellow for the post following Hawkeye's one.

And now, since we are here, define which is the actual difference between a well written and an average written post. You'll see that everyone has his opinion about that. So, if you aren't sure about what to do, just don't rate posts.

And, null, just to point out something... Hawkeye wrote a good post here. It was a well written post. I guess it required some reasoning to him. So why did someone give him a yellow? He didn't deserve it at all.

Honestly, I am sure that I will get more than one yellow from you all for this post of mine. And you know why? Because you don't agree with my opinions. This doesn't mean that my post isn't well written though!!!

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This post was edited by andromacha on Sep 04, 2002.


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