Reading Macintosh

Hi!

Does anybody know whether a list of shortcuts (like ctrl + a = ...)
for MacOS 9 and OS X exists somewhere and if yes where to find it?? I'm a complete computer idiot that's why my question is possibly ridiculous i have no idea, nevertheless I'm going to teach students how to work with MACs... starting this Thursday, oh my gosh!! Well, good luck to me and thanks for your help!

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The Apple knowledge base has a page on keyboard shortcuts on MacOS 9 and one for MacOS X.

It's a great thing when you get to know someone who didn't like PCs very much and after some months of hard work she is teaching people how to use them! I am proud to announce that I have successfully spread geekdom.

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They're pretty much the same standard key tricks as on Windows. (Guess which one is the original. :-P ) On your Mac you will find a key that looks like this -->

...and is mostly referred to as "flower", "cauliflower" ("Blumenkohl"), "the Apple key" or "Cmd". On some Macs you'll only find the cauliflower sign, without the apple. Also, some Alt/Option keys will come with a sign like this -->

(Tip: An original Macintosh mouse has only one button. You can often hold down the Alt/Option key and click your mouse to simulate a right-button click.)

The 'standard' (=they work with most programs) key combinations: Press Cmd ("cauliflower") and...
A - Select all
C - Copy selection to clipboard
X - Cut selection (move to clipboard)
V - Paster from clipboard
W - Close active window
Q - Exit active program.

In general, don't be scared, Macs are very user friendly and easy to use. :-)

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In general, don't be scared, Macs are very user friendly and easy to use. :-)

Maybe, but only in case you know how to use them :) You know I spent desperate hours in front of a mac not finding the combination for @ ;)

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You know I spent desperate hours in front of a mac not finding the combination for @ ;)

I admit that I couldn't figure out how to do it the last time I used a Macintosh computer. I ended up copying and pasting the character from other internet pages.

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Ever tried Alt-G? :-)

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Ever tried Alt-G? :-)

I thought these things were supposed to be intuitive?

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Weeelll... the key should be labeled properly on new Macs.

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I can't seem to edit my last post, so here's something I forgot yesterday - there's probably a small programm called "Tastatur", hidden behind the Apple menu. If you start it and press some Alt or Shift or Whatever key, it shows you which key will produce which character. Check it out, simply press Alt and see what the G key does.
Now ain't that easy. :-)

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Macs are very user friendly and easy to use. :-)

Yes but only if you haven't got used to PCs before!!

Thanks a lot for your help..

It won't get too easy but I'll try hard!!

PS: The @ thing was a problem I stumbled over before, too! Luckily I now found out the different ways to produce it on the different types of macs we have in our art-uni building!

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Yes but only if you haven't got used to PCs before!!

Well, since about 90% of all Windows features have been 'borrowed' from MacOS, it shouldn't be too hard to find your way within reasonable time. If you're stuck just ask!

Honestly, I think the biggest difference is the way multiple programs / windows are handled. Apart from that... you see, I'm a Windoze/Unix man and never worked much with Macs, but every time I fire up my Mac emulator it's a bit like coming home. Using a Mac somehow just feels cozy to me. I mean, what other computer smiles at you when you push the Power switch? :-)

Thanks a lot for your help..
It won't get too easy but I'll try hard!!

Good luck! And just ask if there's a problem. Jaz and me (and others?) will happily help you spread the word about the superiority of the Mac. ;-)

PS: The @ thing was a problem I stumbled over before, too! Luckily I now found out the different ways to produce it on the different types of macs we have in our art-uni building!

What types of Macs are you using, or will you be using?

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This post was edited by null on Apr 08, 2003.

I mean, what other computer smiles at you when you push the Power switch? :-)

Peak: Which computer is so beautiful (i-mac, i-book) and can be choosed as pink, blue, orange, green...? :)

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Don't forget the glowing apple on the back of every Powerbook!

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Well, since about 90% of all Windows features have been 'borrowed' from MacOS, it shouldn't be too hard to find your way within reasonable time. If you're stuck just ask!

Actually, both Apple and Microsoft stole all of the major GUI concepts from Xerox. Look up Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center if you're interested. They developed the very first GUI, invented the mouse, made the very first bit-mapped screen and other such significant innovations.

http://www.parc.xerox.com/company/history/

It's pretty interesting stuff. MacOS may have come out before Windows, but both of them stole their ideas from the same place.

Well yeah, I know about Xerox. But that's not my point. :-)
IIRC Xerox even copied some ideas from somewhere else. I wouldn't insist on that tho, as I don't remember the exact story.
I'm merely talking about extras and style, not the principle of GUIs itself, but how they are implemented. And there it's just too obvious where MS got their 'innovative' ideas:

• Ever seen a screenshot of Windows 2.0? Looked awfully like early MacOS. Windows 3.x were the first versions to have an own design.

• The task bar: Mac users have had their on-top-of-the-screen menu, including similar functionality, for years. Hey, while I'm thinking about it, d'you know what other OS the whole Windows 95 desktop 'innovation' reminds me of? :-P

• Drag&Drop (apart from the ability to move windows around)

• Springing folders (i.e. folders that pop open when you drag something around and hover over them) - first seen on MacOS 7 in the mid-90's, now on every Windows 2000 or XP machine.

• Talking of folders... only with Windows 95 were they actually named "folders" in the Windows world. Before they were called "directories", like in DOS. A Mac user has always been calling them "folders".

The actual list is much longer, but I don't want to bore you too much. I'm sure you can think of other things yourself. :-)

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Actually, both Apple and Microsoft stole all of the major GUI concepts from Xerox.

Xerox just didn't realize what they were holding in their hands. If their management would have had some sort of clue back then, this topic would be titled "Xerox shortcuts lists".

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion