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Apr 10, 2003 07:58 # 10411

alien8u * posts about...

Humans are crap

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The Gaia Theory - The Living Makes the Non-Living Livable.

This theory applies to all organisms on Earth except for.........Humans. What the hell is wrong with us?

Nature works. It is a plain and simple fact that nature will do what it needs to do in order to function and survive. Nature means everything, not just earth, but the entire universe as well. We know the universe to be 4.7 billion years old, and how old is human life on earth? As humans we are the most intelligent life on earth by nature of our problem solving and creation abilities, and having that power makes us arrogant. What sucks? It sucks that we are polluting our earth to the point where we will kill it soon. WE are using our resources in such a poor maner that we will have no more natural ones. All of my complaining means and will do nothing but damn it is so crappy that we do this to ourselves.

Apr 10, 2003 12:35 # 10419

Jaz *** replies...

Re: Humans are crap

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Nature is not a perfect balance of harmony. Nature is violent, lethal, and always in flux.

I don't question that mankind is the most destructive race that ever walked on this planet, but neither would I assume animal species will cease from becoming extinct if humanity vanished from the face of Earth tonight.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Apr 12, 2003 00:27 # 10495

alien8u * replies...

Re: Humans are crap

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THe animal species may vanish from earth if humans died, but no matter what nature would continue to thrive. Humans mean absolutley nothing to the universe or nature. We only kill nature.

Apr 12, 2003 00:46 # 10499

jdonnell *** replies...

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We kill nature yet we are nature. Hm, interesting :)

Apr 12, 2003 01:01 # 10501

jdonnell *** replies...

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As humans we are the most intelligent life on earth by nature of our problem solving and creation abilities, and having that power makes us arrogant.

I think greed in laziness are the real problems. I think most people genuinely care about the environment, but the effort that it takes to live out those convictions is too much for most people. It's far too easy to live the disposable lifestyle.

But hey, there is no absolute right and wrong ;) Who cares if we destroy nature (joking).

Apr 12, 2003 14:07 # 10507

MelMel *** replies...

Re: Humans are crap

Interesting quote from fredrich neitzche. This is from memory, so if it's wrong feel free to correct me!

"What is the ape to man, a laughingstock or a painful embarrasment? And what will be man be to the overman/superman, a laughingstock or a painful embarrasment?"

Just a thought

-mel

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Apr 19, 2003 01:48 # 10780

Ozric * replies...

Re: Humans are crap

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Alien8u your so right, i worry about the state of this planet all the time and we are destroying it
It jus shows that peace is not the natural state of
humanity
I cannot, off the top of my head, think of any great
era of peace throughout history when all the people's
of the world lived harmoniously together. and they
definatly aint 2day

Is that why peace, as a concept, is so hard to
achieve? Because it is an un-natural state?
maybe... Even in "times of peace" expressions of the
need for competitive stuff are still found in sports,
work and daily life in general. So maybe it isnt in
natures way?

It isn't Humans way , I have been banging on about how we aren't civilised,
So what are we as a species ??? Still quite like animals in so many ways. Survival of the fittest, self preservation,
I know that I wouldn't lay down my own life for many people, and some animals will do the same for their immediate family,
Still I don't know what it all means, but the trees seem quite friendly :)

i dont have a dream "I HAVE A SCHEME"

Apr 19, 2003 01:54 # 10781

Ozric * replies...

Re: Humans are crap

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My question would be this.. if peace isn't the natural human way, what is? I'd say it's a case of survival but because there are so many more people on the planet and there is much more chance of different groups encroaching on each other that there are threats to the survival instinct all over the place. Maybe back in the stone age (or earlier) when peoples were a lot fewer in number and travelled less distance there were less fights between them. I guess that would mean they were living in some sort of peace, the peace which comes with ignorance. Probably not possible these days. But is there a middle ground?

i dont have a dream "I HAVE A SCHEME"

May 06, 2003 06:03 # 11695

Demiurgic *** replies...

Ditto

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I truly can't believe that we are the superior beings on this planet. It just seems that we are all so stupid. Take Hollywood for example, also driving as an example. I'm driving all day long and there is nothing really that hazardous, and then I come to Hollywood and my hand is on the horn like a freaking reflex. You also talk to these random people in your working environment and think to yourself, how the majority of us ended up so out of touch with the world. Today I observed a kid who broke a bench at a park and the manager of the park told the teacher, who was supossed to be in charge. The kid repudiates his argument by saying how he sat in the bench a it fell apart. That's not something one sees everyday. Aren't becnhes made to support us. We all knew he was lying yet he went on with the charade. Why?

It is better to be pissed off than pissed on.

Jun 10, 2003 17:48 # 12905

mclaincausey *** shakes his head...

Re: Humans are crap

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No, the universe is not 4.7 billion years old, you must be thinking of the Earth. The universe is more like 10 to 20 billion years old.

The earth is anywhere from 4.5 billion to 5 billion years old, based on carbon dating lunar rocks and meteorites.

Humans have inhabited the Earth in one form or another for 3 million years.

For the last 10,000 years, humans have lived in a different way then they did successfully for 2,990,000 years. Humans changed from a model of hunting, gathering, herding, and small-scale agriculture to a model based on one ultimate objective--growth. Every thing that humans have done for the past 10,000 years serves the end of growth--the way we practice agriculture is where all this starts.

Cultures that still lived the old way, in accordance with nature, were wiped out or assimilated, and today very few of them still exist. Through famine, pestilence, war, and plague, the human population has grown for 10,000 years.

In nature, populations fluctuate--humankind has excepted itself from the laws of nature, blithely thinking there will be no consequences for this.

When the agricultural revolution turned into the industrial revolution, the rate at which we despoiled the earth accelerated by orders of magnitude. As the use of fossil fuels allowed us to stave off Malthus' discovery of an inevitable food shortage, so also did fossil fuels in agriculture create a food surplus, which in turn guaranteed MORE GROWTH. This vicious cycle will continue until someone puts a stop to it. Now we have industrial monocrop fields in the US whose product is exported to third world countries--yes, you read me right: the US is largely responsible for the Third World populaiton boom.

As more and more people crowded the Earth and forgot how to live, stress, insanity, violent crime, depression, and other "signs of an advanced culture" appeared. As more and more people crowd the Earth for fewer and fewer resources, inevitably these symptoms of our way of life will increase in frequency and urgency.

So, we are lost. Humans are not crap, we are just lost--we have completely forgotten what it means to be human.

Imagine taking a hyena out of the wild and trying to have it as a pet--the animal wouldn't know what to do, and would create havoc. Well, that's what's happening to humans. We have been institutionally told that Jesus or Buddha or Muhammed can tell us how to live, because we have turned our backs on the knowledge that had been there for 3 million years and beyond. The evidence points out that, put in the proper system, humans are just fine, thank you. I think we need to rediscover those systems, the ones that were actually successful.

Mac

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