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What are we doing spending billions of dollars trying to keep people's private lives in order? And I'm talking about legal-aged, consenting adults here. Not kids. We obviously have to take special precautions to protect kids. But what is this Orwellian hang-up of ours of sticking our nose into other grown-ups' affairs? What concern is it of ours if some mindless stoner wants to spend his life hooked up to a Turkish skullbong?

Now I'm not pro drug. They obviously cause a lot of damage. But I am pro-logic, and you're never going to stop the human need for release through altered consciousness. The government could take away all the drugs in the world and people would spin around on their lawn until they fell down and saw God.

It seems to really enrage the vast cheese-dog and beer-quaffing nation out there when someone decides to waste his own life chasing down chemical euphoria. And I'm not sure why. Our displeasure with someone hell-bent on self ruination through drug use seems really disproportionate to its direct impact on us. And as a matter of fact, we amplify that impact when we attempt to enforce unenforceable laws. It not only costs us billions but puts us in harm's way as addicts are driven to crime as a means to an end.

Why do we chase druggies down like villagers after Borris Karloff? Let them legally have what they already have and defuse the bomb.

The war on drugs is more often than not fruitless and patently hypocritical. Be honest with yourselves, now, what drugs are the most dangerous to most people? It's a no-brainer, cigarettes and alcohol.

Those are the statistical champions by hundreds and thousands of deaths. And wouldn't you rather shoot a game of pool with a guy smoking a joint than a guy drinking whiskey and beer? Someone smoking a joint doesn't all of a sudden rear back and stab his partner in the eye socket with the cue stick, okay. He's too busy laughing at the balls.

And as far as harder drugs go, if somebody wants to shoot up and die right in front of you, more power to him, you know it's his call. The herd has always had a way of thinning itself out!

We aren't stupid people, no more than anyone else in the world. So why are we obsessing on habits that harm no one but the habitual, while we let real problems slip even further out of reach?

Hey lockedNloaded, wow man you hit the nail on the head with that one, its so true. You know what pisses me off, that people like you or that share your views are not MPs or Politicians,I don't know but the people at the top are the people at the top.
And they like it that way, probably we would quite like to be at the top too ?:(
To stay at the top they need to keep us peasants going to maintain their own power.
Money=power=money=power.
They probably put a lot of effort into maintaining the present human situation, so as to maintain their own superior position.
If people have too much time to think how things could be better, they might do something about it, this is kind of borne out by the fact that most activists and protesters are unemployed and have time to think. At the end of the day weed like a lot of drugs are natural and even existed on this planet before us humans did, so who is some posh nose MP sitting in an office to say we cant smoke that drug just because thats hes opinion. I think it should be an individual decision.

i dont have a dream "I HAVE A SCHEME"

The government is present to maintain order in society. Drug abusers are drains on society. Do you think hard working people should have their tax money go towards welfare, so certain people can spend their life brain-fried?

I support the legalization of marijuana, but for entirely different reasons...

1. First of all, it's obvious the laws aren't stopping people from doing it.

2. Before I became legal drinking age, it was much MUCH easier for me to get pot than alcohol. Legalizing it would keep it away from children.

3. When you buy shit on the streets you have no idea what's in it. It could be laced with rat poison for all you know. If it were legal, you could buy it in stores and it could be guarenteed to be clean.

4. Having marijuana available in stores would put dealers out of business.

5. Not to mention the millions in tax dollars that could be put towards, say, education or health care.

I do not advocate the legalization of addictive drugs.

Cigarettes and alcohol are "statistical champions" because they are legal. They should give life sentences for those who kill driving drunk and permanently revoke the licenses of those caught driving drunk.

They should give life sentences for those who kill driving drunk

definitly. same opinion.

and permanently revoke the licenses of those caught driving drunk.

wait a minute: what about those who just CANNOT drive without being drunk? (yep, there IS a difference!)

yes, looks kind of idiotic, but a third of the humankind suffers of something called reverted blood circulation, which makes several stuff really really UN-doable, eg. not shuddering while NOT having a bit alcohol in your blood (or being on any other drug).

and YES, i DO know such kind of people.

and there goes all the shit: how to tell if somebody's going to be VERY calm and WELL concentrated on what he's doing all the way, eg. driving, if he drinks some alcohol or anything else?

i think in our bureaucratic world he/she hadnt any chance of EVER being allowed to drive, if he/she tried to fight that by law n' order.

cu, w0lf.

Metal has no laws. Metal is the law.

This post was edited by oxygenius on Apr 21, 2003.

a third of the humankind suffers of something called reverted blood circulation, which makes several stuff really really UN-doable, eg. not shuddering while NOT having a bit alcohol in your blood

Google didn't spit out any matches for reverted or reversed blood circulation, so what amount of alcohol are we talking about here? If someone affected from that syndom needs to empty two glasses of Scotch before they are able to drive, no, they shouldn't be allowed to do that.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Jaz: did you ever try using a library? or asking 'things' that are alive?

google wont find you this. at least NOT, if you try searching for this 'reverted blood circulation' ((Blut)Kreislauf). its not too often mentioned - it's the reason why Ritalin and several other stuff are WORKING with cases of AD(H)S aka HKS aka MCD.
it's an inofficial description normally used only by both medicine personal and therapists. you wont hear this one seldom outside this 'circle'. ;)

but 'having' HKS/ADHS is NOT always the same as not being able to drive/concentrate WITHOUT alcohol/some similar drug.

we had this discussion somewhat before - dont know the thread anymore, but i'm sure you'll be able to find it.

anyway, i'm 'slightly' affected by the side-effects of the so-called 'reverted blood circulation', which eg. let you become very calm and sleepy by using some types of speed, or also dozing off by drinking a normal dose of coffee (this is the reason why i dont drink normal, but only very strong coffee, which others would either spit out or just run up the walls).

this goes further coming to local anaesthesia my dentist gives me so i dont feel the pain if he drills around my teeth - he always gives me not twice, but three times of the normal dose - else it's effect would wear off too fast. :-/

coming back to alcohol: YES, if i drink a bit more of that toxic stuff, sometimes i all in a sudden STOP shuddering - which i nearly ALWAYS do (if i wasnt soooo sleeepy now, i'd do it, too. but i nearly did doze off some minutes before, nearly doing the famous "it's called a 'head crash'", so... ). :)

cu, w0lf.

Metal has no laws. Metal is the law.

This post was edited by oxygenius on Apr 22, 2003.

Jaz: did you ever try using a library?

I figured Google would give me some information about a syndrome that's affecting two billion people. Also no libraries open on Easter Monday.

or asking 'things' that are alive?

I asked you, didn't I?

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

I asked you, didn't I?

see? and i am alive. at least, sometimes :D

(there's something fouling laying around on the lawn ... *lol*)

no, sometimes, especially for searching such documents, i'd suggest trying either MetaGer (good choice) or DogPile (better choice) ;)

cu, w0lf.

Metal has no laws. Metal is the law.

Where are these 2,109,891,667 people hiding? Forgive me for being skeptical, but if someone can't keep from shaking without having a drink, they need to be in a hospital.

they need to be in a hospital.

in your ... 'humble' ... opinion.

:->

i knew i should have let you set on 'ignore'.

and that is EXACTLY what the one that 'need(s) to be in a hospital' is going to do NOW. at least, i dont need drugs to do THAT.

cu, w0lf.

Metal has no laws. Metal is the law.