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Apr 10, 2003 06:29 # 10409

MelMel *** announces...

Re:Being to controversial (On a side note)

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hmmm, you should read stupid white men by michael moore. bush has always claimed his favourite book from preschool was "the very hungry caterpiller" unfortunatly this book wasn't puplished until after good-old-georgey graduated!

the folowing is an open letter michael moore wrote to president bush:

Note: Michael Moore refers to President Bush as Governor Bush b/c you
Must remember we the people didn't elect him. For those of you who don't know him: Michael is an award-winning documentary filmmaker (Bowling for Columbine).

Monday, March 17th, 2003

George W. Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington, DC

Dear Governor Bush:

So today is what you call "the moment of truth," the day that "France
And the rest of world have to show their cards on the table." I'm glad to hear that this day has finally arrived. Because, I gotta tell ya, having survived 440 days of your lying and conniving, I wasn't sure if I could take much more. So I'm glad to hear that today is Truth Day, 'cause I got a few truths I would like to share with you:

1. There is virtually NO ONE in America (talk radio nutters and Fox News aside) who is gung-ho to go to war. Trust me on this one. Walk out of the White House and on to any street in America and try to find five people who are PASSIONATE about wanting to kill Iraqis. YOU WON'T FIND THEM! Why? 'Cause NO Iraqis have ever come here and killed any of us! No Iraqi has even threatened to do that.

You see, this is how we average Americans think: If a certain so-and-so
Is not perceived as a threat to our lives, then, believe it or not, we don't want to kill him! Funny how that works!

2. The majority of Americans -- the ones who never elected you -- are
not fooled by your weapons of mass distraction. We know what the real issues are that affect our daily lives -- and none of them begin with I or end in Q.

Here's what threatens us: two and a half million jobs lost since you took office, the stock market having become a cruel joke, no one knowing if their retirement funds are going to be there, gas now costs two dollars a gallon -- the list goes on and on. Bombing Iraq will not make any of this go away. Only you need to go away for things to improve.

3. As Bill Maher said last week, how bad do you have to suck to lose a
popularity contest with Saddam Hussein? The whole world is against you,
Mr. Bush. Count your fellow Americans among them.

4. The Pope has said this war is wrong, that it is a SIN. The Pope! But
even worse, the Dixie Chicks have now come out against you! How bad does it have to get before you realize that you are an army of one on this war? Of course, this is a war you personally won't have to fight. Just like when you went AWOL while the poor were shipped to Vietnam in your place.

5. Of the 535 members of Congress, only ONE (Sen. Johnson of South
Dakota)has an enlisted son or daughter in the armed forces! If you really want to stand up for America, please send your twin daughters over to Kuwait right now and let them don their chemical warfare suits. And let's see every member of Congress with a child of military age also sacrifice their kids for this war effort.

What's that you say? You don't THINK so? Well, hey, guess what – we don't think so either!

6. Finally, we love France. Yes, they have pulled some royal screw-ups.
Yes, some of them can be pretty damn annoying. But have you forgotten we wouldn't even have this country known as America if it weren't for the French? That it was their help in the Revolutionary War that won it for us? That it was France who gave us our Statue of Liberty, a Frenchman who built the Chevrolet, and a pair of French brothers who invented the movies? And now they are doing what only a good friend can do -- tell you the truth about yourself, straight, no b.s. Quit pissing on the French and thank them for getting it right for once.

You know, you really should have traveled more (like once) before you
took over. Your ignorance of the world has not only made you look stupid, it has painted you into a corner you can't get out of.

Well, cheer up -- there IS good news. If you do go through with this
war, more than likely it will be over soon because I'm guessing there aren't a lot of Iraqis willing to lay down their lives to protect Saddam Hussein. After you "win" the war, you will enjoy a huge bump in the popularity polls as everyone loves a winner -- and who doesn't like to see a good ass-whoopin' every now and then (especially when it 's some third world ass!). And just like with Afghanistan, we'll forget about what happens to a country after we bomb it 'cause that is just too complex! So try your best to ride this victory all the way to next year's election. Of course, that's still a long ways away, so we'll all get to have a good hardy-har-har while we watch the economy sink even further down the toilet!

But, hey, who knows -- maybe you'll find Osama a few days before the election!

See, start thinking like THAT! Keep hope alive! Kill Iraqis -- they got our oil!!

Yours,

Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com

i personally loved it!!! sorry if you've read it before or are offended by it in any way.

-mel

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Apr 10, 2003 10:40 # 10416

oxygenius *** laughs about...

Re:Being to controversial (On a side note)

hm. ..

on a side note: click this! (its in german but still funny as hell: D)

Metal has no laws. Metal is the law.

Apr 10, 2003 11:34 # 10418

Alekseji ** laughs about...

Re:Being to controversial (On a side note)

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I've another one...

On a propaganda tournee through the States, George W. Bush visits a school and tries to explain his politics to the pupils. The little Bob has a question:

"Mr. President, i have three questions for you:
1. Why have you won the elections although you had less votes then Mr. Gore.
2. Why do u wanna attack the Iraq without any reasons?
3. Don't you think that the bomb on Hiroshima has been the biggest terroristic attack in history?"

In this moment the bell for the school-break is ringing and all pupils are running out of the classroom.
After the break, when the pupil got back to the class room, Bush invites the pupils again to question him.
Now it's Joes turn:
"Mr. President, i have five questions for you:
1. Why have you won the elections although you had less votes then Mr. Gore.
2. Why do u wanna attack the Iraq without any reasons?
3. Don't you think that the bomb on Hiroshima has been the biggest terroristic attack in history?
4. Why was the break-bell ringing 20 minutes earlier than normal
5. Where is Bob?"

The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.

Apr 28, 2003 18:40 # 11260

Hawkeye *** replies...

Re:Being to controversial (On a side note)

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Nice, Alek. :D

I want to make it perfectly clear I don't want to start anything. I have a tendency to do that. It is just that right about the time everything was blown out of proportion, me having the unpopular opinion for bush, was getting some pretty nasty ratings at times. So to relate to what oxygenius was saying, I think I've been a victim first-hand.

You could argue that my post wasn't well written, but I noticed the trend was.. popular opinion = good ratings. Unpopular opinion = bad ratings. Maybe I write worse when the majority of nao doesn't agree. :-/

If the world should blow itself up,the last audible voice would be an expert saying it can't be done

This post was edited by Hawkeye on Apr 28, 2003.

Apr 29, 2003 09:25 # 11310

Anonymous replies...

Re:Being to controversial (On a side note)

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me having the unpopular opinion for bush, was getting some pretty nasty ratings at times.

Don't want to start anything either, but IMHO the ratings you got for these posts were mostly for offensive content, not because of your opinion.

Apr 29, 2003 18:36 # 11340

Hawkeye *** replies...

Re:Being to controversial (On a side note)

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And my 40% rating was justly deserved, how? What did I say that was offensive? That I thought Bush was justified? Oh well, in that case, I'll just say whatever you want me to say since my opinion isn't popular.

And some of the things null was saying weren't exactly peachy keen either. Yet his ratings didn't follow that trend like mine did.

If the world should blow itself up,the last audible voice would be an expert saying it can't be done

This post was edited by Hawkeye on Apr 29, 2003.

Apr 29, 2003 18:45 # 11343

null *** replies...

Re:Being to controversial (On a side note)

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And some of the things null was saying weren't exactly peachy keen either. Yet his ratings didn't follow that trend like mine did.

Well... the majority decided. Everybody has an opinion of their own, and I can't influence people to give me good ratings any more than you can.
But (as some already stated before), I don't want to start anything, so I'm not gonna go into detail here. Let's just try to let the past be past in order to keep this a peaceful place.

"God is dead." - Nietzsche, 1882 "Nietzsche is dead." - God, 1900

Aug 21, 2004 23:35 # 25703

sy_LLA_ble * throws in her two cents...

Re: Being too controversal

93% | 6

Heh...I'm about to step on some toes.

I've said my little piece about the rating system, but DUDE! It seems to me you use the rating system as a personal validation. My only complaint with the system as a whole is for the new folks like myself. Example:

I posted a question in the "Site Related" forum about a process. To me, the sorts of questions regarding site maneuverability should go without ratings. The reason: For newbies trying to rank up (and in order to be able to contribute more meaningful discussions), a low and unnecessary rating on a simple operations question hinders that process. I don't personally care whether you agree or disagree or like or don't like ANY of my posts. I don't need the rating system to make me feel better about myself - I already know I ROCK! But I must admit I was a little miffed to be 'rated' on a site question.

Now, back to your ranting...

so, well, whats so bad about someone who has experiences in doing drugs and talking about that? or suicide? or dead?

Uhm...I for one have no problem talking to anyone about any subject. Perhaps the reason for the low or mediocre rating is that it's been said and done and said and done and people are just tired of reading it? *ducking from the boot just thrown at my head* Seriously, if there are five topics covering basically the same subject, no matter how much a person spills his/her guts I'm gonna rate it how I see it. If it's well written, concise, thought-provoking (whether positive or negative thoughts) and EXCELLENT - I'll rate it EXCELLENT! If it's not, it just plain isn't. You can't fault people for their opinion. You just can't, and there's no way to justify doing so.

I read the entire thread from your original post to # 10360 where it seems to get off-subject and onto Bush (whom I refer to as "The Grinning Frat-Boy") and Hitler. I realize I'm re-hashing an old altercation, but hey - it's fun for me and that's what matters! :D On a positive end-note, I think your passion is inspiring and I hope you don't hate me too much for doing as you suggested:

either speak up, or be quiet for the rest of your (obviously lonely) days!

Ciao.

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