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Since my post I have heard another theory (really though provoking). If you have seen 'The Second Renissance' parts 1 and 2 (part of the animatrix, you can see them free on the animatrix website) you saw the nukes dropped. Well, we all should know that a nuke, when it explodes, sends out an emp that is quite larger than the blast radius (I don't know exactly how much), so that emp blast should have disabled the robots. The theory goes as this: The humans actually won the war, and to contain the machines, wrote the matrix for them to live in in which they thought that they won.

That just takes it to a whole new level of complexity. The machines are in the matrix, and the machines built the matrix for the 'humans' in their matrix. Good god, it is like dominos.

Fond memories

The theory that Neo, Morpheus, and the whole menagerie are the AI programs is actually a pretty strong one, at least to me. I can't find the site that explains that theory, but it's definitely one of the stronger ones I've seen thus far. Doesn't it seem strange how you can jack a brain into a computer and instantly download information? Or how the machines know how many people are in Zion? Or any number of other things in the movie. It's curious.

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

Could it not just be that the matrix is producing lots of sentinels i.e. around 250,000 which are descending upon the city not that the system produces exactly the same amount?

Also, I don't think that Smith has taken over evryone in the Matrix- I still don't reckon that he knows his new purpose. I believe that he knows what Neo is there to do but not what HE is meant to do, now that he has witnessed something that was outside the parameters of his programming. Having gone 'renegade' he is now looking for what it is he is there for- possibly a relic of his nature as being an agent?!

Also I had an idea about it (I know that its probably stupid to put it into nowadays comouter terms but i have!!). How about that the Architect has designed the Matrix as a way to control the humans and get the best 'power' out of them as they/we are only being used as batteries! He then leaves in renegades such as Neo to test his programming (seen in the fact that there have been another 5 Ones before). He then studies the behaviour of the renegade and reprogammes the Matrix to cut out the problems- as the Architect himself said- the previous work was pretty flawed.

Just though I should share my thoughts with you all!

This post was edited by jdavey82 on May 30, 2003.

Having gone 'renegade' he is now looking for what it is he is there for- possibly a relic of his nature as being an agent?!

Yet for some reason Smith has found a purpose for his new found liberty: Find and kill Neo.

I really don't understand why he is so bound on doing that. Fine, it used to be his job but now he doesn't have to follow anyone's orders anymore.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

There are two things to remember here. First of all, when neo chooses the door on the left, everything changes and his actions become beyond the realm of the Matrix control (as he is the first One to ever make this choice. His powers have now become magnified (his speed in flight, his reviving of Trinity, and I believe his destruction of the squidies). He is able to destroy the squidies because he has a connection to the machines that no one else has, he is physically and mentally attatched to the machines.

In order to predict the next matrix movie we have to anylize what Smith has become. In my opinion Smith has become a virus, infecting the minds of the people in the matrix. Every time he does this he becomes more powerful. He is going to eventually come to infect every mind connected to the matrix (and possibly programs, as we see that he can replicate himself from another agent). He is going to become the key here, holding both the machines hostage (if he controls every body attatched to the matrix then he completely controles the power source) and the humans as well (he holds every human mind attatched to the matrix hostage). However, Smith also now has an insight into what it means to be human having inhabited a human body. SO the question is, what happens in and what leads up to the final fight between Neo and Smith (Smith is obviously becomeing more and more powerful)? Will Neo destroy the Smith Program completely, killing every human attatched to the Matrix? Will Smith, perhaps turn on the machines, having a new knowledge of what it means to be human and gaining a certain respect for humanity?
(as I was writing this I came up with something, if anyone has seen the trailer at the end of the Enter the Matrix game, there is a point where Morpheus says "he fights for us" perhaps he is talking about Smith, or maybe they send the guy who Smith infected in the real world back into the Matrix, and that Smith will fight for the humans.)
Oh my god my head is going to fall off. Well all I know is that all questions will be answered in November and I can hardly wait, tell me what you think about my theories.
Mindlessly Indulged

Nice post.

For some reason I had never thought Smith had infected the traitor before. I always thought he would have had his own reasons for his betrayal (did I miss a key scene here?).

But now that I read what you wrote it makes perfect sense, of course.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

I've been reading some of your ideas and they are quite interesting.
I support the theory that Zion is still inside the Matrix (or another Matrix) and has been programmed for those who need to make their own choices (let's call them rebels). Otherwise how can we explain that a virus such as Mr. Smith can be transferred to 'the real world'? He transfers to the 'real world' as a virus would infect another system. A virus cannot infect other but software. It would be like us talking on a phone and being infected by a computer virus (?????). There are some basics that still apply in the trilogy, and one is that software is software. Mr. Smith finds a new communication channel he did not know it existed by infecting the first guy (don't remember his name).
The other point that supports this theory is that Neo stops those sentinels because he now knows he's still in the matrix and therefore everything is still set by rules (which he can break - that's what gives him the power he has). Why didn't he stop sentinels before? Simply because he thought he was in the real world. And now that he knows it he’s got to learn how to apply his powers to the new environment.
I don't think he acquires any more powers when he goes through the left door, or that he is half human half machine. They would have shown some kind of scene that made it clearer.
And again, those are just my thoughts!

Ok, I've started to notice a point of linguistics here; some people refer to the machine's best weapon against Zion, "Sentinels," as Sentinals, and others call 'em squids, squidies, etc. Somebody brought up the concept of whether or not Smith will turn good. . .

Watch the first Matrix; the Agents, members of the System, refer to them as Sentinels. The resisters, Morpheus and his menagerie, refer to them as squids. Since Smith has infected Bane, and Bane is the only survivor of the attack, I wouldn't expect action at the very beginning of the following sequence in the next film. Perhaps they're gonna grill Smith/Bane about what happened. Listen to what he calls the Sentinels. . .

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

Interesting thoughts, but i still believe that it is possible for Smith to infect peroples brain. I don't believe that your analogy of talking on the phone is correct, because remember, these electrical signals are being downloaded directly into their brains. When neo is learning martial arts (I know Kung Fu) it's being sent from the computer into his brain...he absorbs the program. The traitor has absorbed the Smith program...

Is my point a little clearer?

Also, on the Matrix within the Matrix idea, I don't think this is possible. If there were a matrix within a matrix, wouldn't the machines simply unplug the rebels in the real (real) world? No, I think my theory is more feasable, being the one, neo has a connection witht he machines that no one else has, and this extends to the real world. And remember, this has never happened before, the one has never taken the door on the left so this is all new to the machines as well as neo. This is going to be paramount to the plot of revolutions because all this time neo had great powers, but was still within the constraints of the matrix. Now his power (at least some of it) extends into the real world and beyond machine control, the playing field is leveled. However, destroying the sentinals put him into a coma, so he can't simply destroy all the machines by sheer will. I think much of the next movie will deal with this. Just as the first one ended with neo flying off into the sky and discovering his new powers, so did reloaded, only this time neo only has 72 hours in which to discover his full potential...exciting isn't it.
Mindlessly_Indulged

When neo is learning martial arts (I know Kung Fu) it's being sent from the computer into his brain...he absorbs the program. The traitor has absorbed the Smith program...
Is my point a little clearer?

Thanks for pointing that out. This finally is an understandable explanation for infection being possible at all.

Also, on the Matrix within the Matrix idea, I don't think this is possible. If there were a matrix within a matrix, wouldn't the machines simply unplug the rebels in the real (real) world?

They could, but if there was a Matrix within the Matrix the whole war would have been staged by the machines anyway.

I personally don't believe in the Matrix within Matrix thing because it would be a pretty cheap trick to tie up the loose ends of the plot in Revolutions. It would be like the protagonist waking up in the end of the movie and it had all been a dream. Not a very satisfying ending.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion