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Planet X

A tremendous amount of literature has been written about the mysterious Twelfth Planet. Claims that it's nonsense,some swearing by it. A little info on it...Its orbit, every 3600 years...Some are saying that its return, now due, is whats effecting the Earth, to slow down it's magnetic power, spectulation on the magnetic pole flip which scientests say is over due, as I mentioned before.
While the Sun flips magnetic poles every 11 years....more ?

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

This post was edited by alx on Jun 15, 2003.

I've read your post about five times and I still can't sort it out.

Good, it's not just me, i was fearing being the only person who knows NOTHING about space (i think that's what the post was about - apologies if it's not!) and the like.

Alx: would you be able to explain this in "idiot-speak" so i can understand it, it sounds really interesting.

-mel

Look at me! I'm a prostitute robot from the future!

The evidence is out there....A picture is worth a thousand words. Finding it hard to believe that we are the only ones
in this infinate universe with some brains! Should we
actually think we are? Maybe that's why we do so much damage
here at home, on Earth !

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

This is an Image of the surface of Mars said maybe,
to be a crashed Spacecraft. What do you think ?

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

This post was edited by alx on Jun 15, 2003.

Hmm...nope, still confused.

Which world is Plato in?

You seem to be a little confused.

From what I can see, there are no dimentions on that thing, even from the webpage that hosts that image. As far as I can tell, it's no different from a simple meteor that came in at an angle.

Besides, if the spacecraft did crash, there would have been an investigation team sent by a generic alien race by now.

You may want to see instructions on how to How To Make Your Own UFO.

GAH! What a load of nonsense this is!

A tremendous amount of literature has been written about the mysterious Twelfth Planet.

Okay, twelfth? What happened to 10 and 11?

Its orbit, every 3600 years...Some are saying that its return, now due, is whats effecting the Earth, to slow down it's magnetic power, spectulation on the magnetic pole flip which scientests say is over due, as I mentioned before.

The magnetic flip has been mathmatically modelled and is a phenomona that occurs naturally without the need for an outside influence to trigger it. The time frame for the magnetic flip does not fit the 'return' of this 'planet'. The planet would most likely have no significant influence in anyway unless very close also the magnetic flip has been occuring slowly over a long period - given the 1/r^2 diminishing effects of any body this planet would not have started this process if it's some ridiculous distance off in space when the flip started to occur again.

While the Sun flips magnetic poles every 11 years....more ?

Remarkably enough the sun is not composed anything like the earth.

This is an Image of the surface of Mars said maybe,
to be a crashed Spacecraft. What do you think ?

I think it looks rather unremarkable - on a planet that once had an intense amount of tectonic activity it is not statistically unreasonable to think that it would be possible for there to be a few surface formations that form meaningful symbolic structures when people interpret them in a certain way.

Put simply - people will read into these things what they want to see.

The evidence is out there....A picture is worth a thousand words. Finding it hard to believe that we are the only ones

Looks as fake as anything. Images are so easy to stage they make incredibly poor evidence on face value.

in this infinate universe with some brains! Should we
actually think we are? Maybe that's why we do so much damage
here at home, on Earth !

It seems probably there is life all over the universe. It also seems probable that it would be incredibly likely that most life would be incredibly simple. It's also even more likely that if there is advanced life it would be incredibly difficult for it to actually reach out across space and contact us.

Looking at 10's of dozens of "Flying Saucer" shaped images called UFO's...from the 40's thru the 60's, I find them strangely simular. This image, a cavepainting some 2500 to 3000 years ago looks very much like most of them, of this 3 or more decade spand of time.
Why is it that we think of ourselves as the Masters of Planet Earth, trusting in our own knowledge of history to write solutions to all things...when we could quite possablly be the offspring of greater wiser parents from across time we have no record of...?
A time, we ironicly, are now trying to create & evolve into?

Note: Trusting in what we know is good! Trusting ONLY in what we know, I think is bad.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

This post was edited by alx on Jun 16, 2003.

Well, all of the UFO and spaceman paintings I've heard of so far have turned out to be forgeries, commissioned by their "discoverers". Take any Daeniken (or Zillmer) book and pick any piece of "proof" for extraterrestrial life, enter its name plus "forgery" or "wrong" into Google and check the result. It's really embarrassing what kind of crap some people try to sell us as "facts".

Aah, una bella finestra!

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Oh my god, the UFO got shot by a giant flying-by dildo! Aaah!

It must be the truth, because pictures on the Internet never lie!

Aah, una bella finestra!

I think that's the best post ever.

Null, thats the best post ever.

Alx, I hope you're joking, because everything you have posted here is shit.

"It was not God who created man, but man who created God." --Santa Caserio

In the late 1940's investigations started...from the 40's thru the 50's NATO was involved in these investigations...& was part of the cover-up, suppressing the evidence unexplainable, while releasing foolish forgeries & explainable data. Creating minds not to differantly simular to yours.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Hmmm

it seems to me what alx is trying to do is convince us of the presence of life on other planets via a string of badly constructed, utterly confusing posts, and a collecten of bad images he/she found while oh so very very bored.

I personally dont know anything atall about space, so all these facts and dates on the subject mean absolutly jack-shit to me...i dont believe in *aliens* and a series of badly doctored images isnt going to convince me other wise

and @ null, that really was the funniest thing ive seen in ages *sigh* well done.

And im not being a wise ass, i really ment that...im still laughing like five minutes later.

Whats up alx? It seems you REALLY REALLY want us to believe...are you an alien? are you sent here to prepare us for the motherships arrival? are you insecure that none of us believe in your exsistance?

COMMUNICATION TERMINATED

*spins in a circle* *dies*

and @ null, that really was the funniest thing ive seen in ages *sigh* well done.

And im not being a wise ass, i really ment that...im still laughing like five minutes later.

Now come on, don't make me blush! :-D

Aah, una bella finestra!

Actually I don't know why im replying to this post...I find this site very kwl, yet subjects here bore me, most of them...everyone has their thoughts ...Since I have a huge interest in the unknown, it figures that I should come under personal attacks regarding the UFO issue
Im sure you have some ideas or belief's that don't interest someone else, yet I don't see why, if that the case...they would hit you over the head with a club, Simular to the actions of Neanderthal's to CroMagnon even thou CroMagnon still lives in us all today...Neanderthal genic's don't exist anywhere on the planet,"another unknown mystery" Possable Alien involvement.
Im sorry, I just don't have any info on or images of dildo's !

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

So we've already ascertained that the GFDs are out there. But some theorize that they've been here all along, goading mankind along on his path towards some greater future. Some even believe that our very religion is guided by these "visitors," but such ideas were long casually dismissed as being ridiculous, and even offensive.

Well, it's still offensive, but now there's proof . . .

(seeing this thread made me sad, and seeing this godawful damnation of a product reminded me that everybody could use a little blasphemy now and then)

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

This post was edited by Magnifico on Oct 01, 2004.

Well, it's still offensive, but now there's proof . . .

Please tell me it's not what I think it is. That would be like... oooh, pretty kinky to say the least...

Aah, una bella finestra!

Oh, it is. I found Divine Interventions not long ago, and, seeing that this wonderful thread was floundering, decided to breathe new life into it. Plus, I don't want to be the only one going to hell just for seeing this. Figure'd it'd be better to bring friends along.

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

This post was edited by Magnifico on Oct 01, 2004.

I found Divine Interventions not long ago,

It's a somewhat sick site. But the haiku corner is pretty cool =)

Aah, una bella finestra!

Remember, feet first.

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

This is a photo still taken from Russian Video,
Taken in 1969 by the KGB, in the hidden files now being found from inside Russia.
I have seen the complete filming of this so called UFO Crash,
Has anyone here seen the program aired on cable about a month ago?

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

All due respect (I do believe in other life-forms in the universe, really), but you don't gain much credibility when your proof for an argument is a picture from an Angelfire website.

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

In the 1960's Pres. Ford publicly says it's not ready for the evidence, & needs to be prepared for such finding, claiming they were not able to understand or comprehend positive, findings..." Oh how right he was, & is, comparing responses of armchair scientist's of today." Adimtting the possible existence of alien visitors is feasible.

A Govt. which today is criticized for all its doing & secrets, denies Area 51 exists...let alone UFO of Flying Saucer's. which have been admitted by creditable resources...have been US manufactured after artifact's over a 5 decade period...increased our technology.

PLEASE fill me in..Magnifico.....What a site's URL got to do with the the foto link? Your so off base to my posts...I wonder if your even learnid, or have the ability to take an educated guess.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

A Govt. which today is criticized for all its doing & secrets, denies Area 51 exists

To plagiate one of NAO's older taglines - "It's not Area 51 that's worrying me, it's areas 1 through 50."

To make the .02 full: :-)

Quite possible that we're not the only living planet in the whole universe, but I've yet to see evidence that doesn't fail closer inspection. Dummiken Daeniken et al don't really help this cause, because with their pathetic attempts to satisfy their sensation-greed they above all ridicule any kind of search for ET's. There have been so many intentional mis-interpretations, made-up facts and forged 'evidence' that it's gonna take some damn good arguments to make many UFO-sceptics (e.g. me :-) ) change their minds.

Aah, una bella finestra!

If you were refering to me...

UFO-sceptics change their minds

I did not realize I was sending the impression I was trying to do that....
As I replied to other negitive posts, concerning my interests in the Unknown, which exists by the way because evidence is few and far between, I guess getting reply's of your kind, is normal.
We have moved into the 21st Century...Yet I feel people don't realize where we are in information...Their minds are so full of Junk, coming from crap TV...crap reporting...crap websites..& well just crap in general...Educated Information...Seems to just get overlooked...
It so much more to people around the world...depending on what country you in...but that's changing too...since the US..which if full of gain...$...lies...Who cares were we are going as a planet...
I do beleive we are watched...there are ,,, what shall I call them...? I know they have a name...Alien..dos'nt work...of corse, but there are over seeiers...? see'rs ? God knows...What's your name...Null. That they are out there, they have been out there...
Do you realize how fragile this planet is...? A mountain, the oceans...the atmosphere as a whole..
Because we have evolved...from the caves...dos'nt mean we have reached our potential on the evolutionary scale.
We as a planet are drifting ....backwards...because $ greed lies secrets & plain old evil are holding us back from reaching, as a whole...the future.
We are being dumbed......by the facts!
You really don't deserve this reply...null.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

PLEASE fill me in..Magnifico.....What a site's URL got to do with the the foto link?

Well, considering the only other "scientific" site I've ever seen on Angelfire was a guy claiming that there were no Dinosaurs, because God didn't make them in the six days it took to make everything (p.o.v. of a Pentacostal Christian).
However, that post was meant as a joke. . .

I wonder if your even learnid

*keels over laughing*

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

I have to let you in on something...
When you go around the net...searching for images..finding them...you have to look at their properties...to see the link to display them elswhere...in a site like this one...
Its much easier to...have a space...thats free...that you can steal the image...and put it up...where you know the properties...Its Just A Whole Lot Easier...! That Way.
The credibility of the image...from the Net Alone..is not proof...mind you.. .even if it comes from a Govt..Site..!
So your point is well taken...but useless to argue the credibility of the fact, that, They ARE Out There.....!

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

This post was edited by alx on Jun 20, 2003.

I understand, and I do believe in intelligent life elsewhere in the universe (Crop-circle n0de: how could a guy with a weed-whacker create an Antahkarana, anyways?), but it's hard to take your evidence at face-value when it's an Angelfire site's picture. I know it's mean, and judgemental, and maybe I'm biased against Angelfire or something, but it just lacks that academic credibility that an argument of this nature generally requires.

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

Look, cut it out already.

We already know that aliens exist. We also already know that 99% of all photos showing a flying saucer/caveman drawing are in one way or another are faked. We know How To Make Your Own UFO.

Posting a thing twenty times does not improve the credibility of your argument. Not only that, but it decreases it when it gets placed against reasonable arguments.

I have enough experience with this sort of stuff that I can eyeball errors in the most simple of forgeries. For example, the crashed UFOs shown would have a lot more damage than a simple enbedment within the ground. Not only that, but the significance of that discovery would be a lot more of a visible guard than a single person in a brown trenchcoat.

And unless it was hit by a giant flying-by dildo, it certainly wouldn't flip upsidedown before crashing.

We already know that aliens exist.

No we don't.

But it's very impossible they don't.

"Sie wollen nichts anderes. Sie wollen kämpfen! Sie sind Soldaten! Fucking Wahnsinnige!" - Noel G.

It's very impossable they don't ? That's strange..
Your really have to think...about..it...even what you see..is not what will tell your mind..
I have a map..of the Milky Way on my wall...there is a dot...showing where our solar system is...In this Huge Storm...in free space...we and our sun,planets, are a dot.

The Universe is full of Milky Ways...Galaxy's forming, Galaxy's dieing....Galaxy's going full force! Like the one we are in...

To be honest...I think if you don't believe they are out there...doing what they do...when your that advanced...a mind must be retarded, lacking the ability...to understand...the unknown..and the future.....which who is to say..will be granted to us....! to reach.

We are here.....we are before us....and we will be after we are gone....!

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Oh, I am positive there is other life out there. No doubt about that: there are trillions (or more) other worlds out there. Humanity isn't that special: we are a product of lucky evolution. There has to be some other species out there with such luck.

However, the idea that there civilizations would send random, secretive spaceships (which always seem to be in the shape of a saucer) to earth is ludicrous. All of these pictures are hoaxes. I am not saying there is no other life out there; however, if it wanted to contact us, it would probably message us first to check for intelligence before sending an actual ship. And who knows, to them, we might be so primitive that we would not even be considered intelligent. Or on the other extreme, the ycould be so primitive that they have no methods for discovering us, let alone communication or sending an envoy.

"It was not God who created man, but man who created God." --Santa Caserio

You make my point exactally, you hav'nt really put much thought into it...at all...have you...
My thoughts...that we are here by chance...is really somewhat elementarily, but that may be your belief, your privilege.
Since they have watched us for many, many years...Oh and by the way...the saucer shape is root...to the physics of the Universe, because.....all things are round..from Atoms..to Planets...to Eggs to...eye's...moon's...solar systems...galaxy's..blood cells...There is an endless string of creations...that root the rounds of the Universe, I won't bore you by listing them here...But its logic, that inner stellular should replicate this shape...
Trust me...If they think us intelligent or not....they are interested...!

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Well, I actually have posting room left...I said that photo of the ufo...is from a VIDEO...which has come out of Russia...since the KGB secret files are coming to Light...Ive seen the video..

If you have time. .& cable...I want you to watch a program which is coming on TV...This Tuesday....its on the Sci-Fi Channel...at 7pm. .if you dont have the Sci-Fi Channel..im sorry...but there is a program coming on...Very NEW...

Tuesday June 24th. ..I think at 7pm...but it may be differant considering your time zone.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

2000 to 3000 year old cave paintings...found in France & Spain, depicting...flying saucer objects ...have been proven as authentic.
Flying saucer objects in Mid evil paintings of the 1500's, shown with the UFO above & behind such studies as the Maddona & Christ.

Many astronauts, one such Edward Mitchell of Apollo 14 admitting these findings are real & should not be suppressed by the United States Govt...which produces skeptics such as those who scarf & joke, because of the lack of understanding the intelligent, ability of others to comprehend the advanced & mysterious unknown's of life far advanced above the stone headed Neanderthal beings of planets they oversee...

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Mhhh i read this post and i agree with most of the people(except the ones of you)

but what i wonder, do you never react to comments?
i mean you just keep on posting and posting, never ever making a real statement to anybodies comment

they all say what you post are non-sense pictures (and so do I) but if you are so convinced of them, shouldn't you at least try to answer the comments?

cya Magic

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

I don't like conflicts too much and i didn't want to join the alx-bashing, but come on, alx. talk to us.

Magicdead is absolutely right in saying...

you just keep on posting and posting, never ever making a real statement to anybodies comment
they all say what you post are non-sense pictures (and so do I) but if you are so convinced of them, shouldn't you at least try to answer the comments?

This is exactly my sentiment. You don't sound like you're trying to communicate to us. You just keep posting these pictures and trying to sound mysterious. it gives me the impression that the attitude behind this is one that is condescending and that you are trying to insult our intelligence, subtly implying that we have been brainwashed (we could say it's the other way around) and will not be convinced because we lack the intelligence.

if your goal here is to try to convince other people of the existence of aliens and UFOs, then you have failed, judging from the reaction of the community. but i think part of that failure is that you don't sound like you're trying to argue anything. you totally ignore responses to your posts--which gives the impression that you're on an ego trip, screaming, "hey, look at me, i know something you don't."

personally, i think you may have something to offer us. but like i said, please, stop sounding like the wise mysterious guru and... just talk to us.

“To God, there is no zero. I still exist.” Scott Carey, The Incredible Shrinking Man

Its really hard to reply to bashing...thx for the understanding...
I could'nt tell you now...in so many words why, I believe..but..I do know there is a program coming on this Tuesday....

Check out the Sci-fi Channel...June 24th, I think 7pm...
Its new...stuff...

Honestly...im not trying to convince you, or anyone...Im just telling you I believe they are out there...for a long time..!
For lack of better words...!

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Im curious why you come here....Is it really your thing to dig deep into someone's reasons.....for being here...Do you do this to other posts?
So why are you here..? I dont see you explaining your actions to anyone...at least not yet I hav'nt...I think your a bit of a rambler....on & on & on...not learning a thing...from you...
So tell me, fill me in...whats your Trip ?
Oh don't take it personal.,,,, I don't know who the heck you are. So........

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Well, Ive been typing...for days.it seems..now..and you cant find a reply...?? weard !

Do you have Sci-fi Channel ?
Check out...Tuesday June 24th around 7pm....if your central time zone..

Actually I hav'nt seen any comments or questions..worth replying to....why reply to a bashing..?? that sucks..

I dont care if you don't believe in UFO's...Lots of people don't believe in anything...!
Im not the type of person who has to have it in my hand to see it...To me that's so neanderthal...and typical...of MAN.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Actually I hav'nt seen any comments or questions..worth replying to....why reply to a bashing..??

http://www.netalive.org/topics/13128#13128
http://www.netalive.org/topics/13120#13120
http://www.netalive.org/topics/13136#13136
http://www.netalive.org/topics/13209#13209
http://www.netalive.org/topics/13227#13227
http://www.netalive.org/topics/13278#13278
http://www.netalive.org/topics/13222#13222
http://www.netalive.org/topics/13266#13266

Don't see too much bashing here.

Aah, una bella finestra!

Is that a link you've but up? hmmm
Maybe the unknow just don't interest you.
Got cable TV?
Check out is program....its new...June 24th sci-fi channel
its called Out Of The Blue....It might just bug you.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

All I have to say, is that we are so wrong about the subject.
They have been around for a long time...While we are still Earth bound...basicly...since we don't understand what it takes to travel to other worlds..we are see as natives on islands, by visitors..from other worlds...Its the Govt. that keeps people in the dark...thinking its nosence..foolishness...While they themselves know they exist...! Why..because we are as the natives on earth bound islands...dumb..well..not smart enough to know what they know...
So keep thinking its all Junk...because that's what the Govt..or the secret govt..wants you to do !

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

because that's what the Govt..or the secret govt..wants you to do !

Any chance you understand German? Because I'd just love to send you a copy of the Bielefeld conspiracy. :-P

Aah, una bella finestra!

Sorry no German...They tried to teach us French in school, but no luck there either...
Are you from Germany? Because the US was not always so screwed up !

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Are you from Germany? Because the US was not always so screwed up !

Good one! :-D
Well no, my humble self is from Switzerland. Many other people around here are from Germany. But we also speak (or at least read/write) German.

Aah, una bella finestra!

The Universe is Eternal, recorded history on Earth go's back about 10 to 12 thousand years...

Life was here, long before the Earth began, & will be going on long after our Sun has burned out...So to say..you need proof, is just near sight.

Because we don't have proof, says Nothing to the fact that life is out there & more intelligent than us, it also says nothing to the fact that they can observe us...with out a trace, it says nothing to the fact that man is so, into himself, that he can't see the forest for the trees.

The fact is, we do exist! Thats proof that they are out there.
Infact they may have had hand in our evolution.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Because we don't have proof, says Nothing to the fact that life is out there & more intelligent than us, it also says nothing to the fact that they can observe us

Well... yes it does - because you're just speculating on a whimsical fancy.

The fact is, we do exist! Thats proof that they are out there.

That only proves we exist - that's like saying because you have apples, bannanas must also exist.

Infact they may have had hand in our evolution.

Fanciful speculation and nothing more.

Why do you reply to anything I say. ..? How do you know I exist..? We have never met...I may be something you know NOTHING about..!
There are none so Blind as those who refuse to SEE ! That means YOU !

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

How do you know I exist..?

Good question. Jaz, you're not playing a trick on us with another chatbot, are you??

:-P

Aah, una bella finestra!

This post was edited by null on Jul 18, 2003.

Why do you reply to anything I say.. .? How do you know I exist..? We have never met...I may be something you know NOTHING about..!

A spambot that has taken on a far greater intellegence than its programming allows and has become fascinated with UFO's?
Until there are other possibilities I would assume you are at least human.

There are none so Blind as those who refuse to SEE ! That means YOU!

Even those with sight cannot see what isn't there.

Its like trying to get an athiest to believe in God..

Yes. It's also like trying to convince the faithful there is no God.

Like I said..the UNIVERSE is Endless..Timeless...Forever!
This is FACT.

No it isn't actually.

History..on Earth is a mear..tiny..10,000 years...apx..right?

Human history.

Why can you not...Understand...that Life...beyond earth..is out there.?

Why can't you understand that this is not fact - just probability?

Because we don't have proof, says Nothing to the fact that life is out there & more intelligent than us

Well there might be life out there. But then again, there might also be giant flying dildos out there!

The question is, how can you be so absolutely sure about it when you don't have any proof? The possibility alone isn't worth anything without at least a clue* that it's true!

* ("clue" does not include amateurishly forged 'evidence' of UFOs.)

Aah, una bella finestra!

Its like trying to get an athiest to believe in God..
Like I said..the UNIVERSE is Endless..Timeless...Forever!
This is FACT.
History..on Earth is a mear..tiny..10,000 years...apx..right?
Now...Our Sun will one day go out..! yes..? Fact...?

If the Universe was here..before the Ancients..of this Earth...such as Before Time. ..Before Man...

Why can you not...Understand...that Life...beyond earth..is out there.? Its like 2=2, yet small minds need big proof..its a natural fact of the screwed up world we live in...Which by the way...will destroy itself...to renew itself...again...one fine day..in a far off future...where in fact...factories...just might not make dildo's anymore...for screwed up...perve's to get their kicks with...truning their minds in crispy crap !

So jerks...can no longer screw up others with false PROOF !

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

History..on Earth is a mear..tiny..10,000 years...apx..right?

Wrong.

Its like 2=2, yet small minds need big proof

Don't get insulting.

Why can you not...Understand...that Life...beyond earth..is out there.?

Again:

There may be life out there. But...

BUT:

This does not, I repeat, not mean that they've ever been here, still are here, or even are within our reach of a few million lightyears! With the universe being as infinite as it is, how can you be so bold and claim that they're near us, or would even want to find us?
Yeah I'm an atheist, and I have my reasons (<-- means "don't attempt to change my mind on that one because I've been through every kind of discussion you can imagine"). I will believe in God the day I meet him (or her). The same goes for UFOs or extraterrestrial life - the day I see them I'll believe that they're here. Embarrassingly badly faked pictures or conspiracy stories don't count.

Remember:
"The only sign for intelligent life out there is that they haven't contacted us yet."

On a side note...

The universe is so big and old, it's beyond our imagination... so how can you deny the existence of giant flying dildos? They are there, it's like 2+2=4! Don't say it's not possible!
And if they exist (a fact beyond any doubt) they must as well have visited us in the past, or maybe they're still visiting us!
Can't you see this?? It's a fact!!! You've seen the picture, haven't you? Pictures don't lie! And there's no further proof required, because evidence is for small minds... the real geniuses will acknowledge the existence of giant flying dildos without any doubt!

Aah, una bella finestra!

You're becoming sarcastic :D

Now, guys, just stop this discussion, it's not worth it. It's up to everyone self if he or she wants to believe whatever.

I don't know what I should believe. The imagination of an endless universe is too much for me. And after movies like Matrix, how are we supposed to believe that there really is an universe and so on. I gave up on believing what I see is true. So much faking possibilities. Who are we? What's this all about? I had strangest conversation about existence. For me there aren't any proofs anymore. How can I even trust myself?
But saying so, one could think this is no life, not believing anything. So I so-so still try to believe. It's easy :)
I believe that there's life out there. I don't believe in flying dildos but it turns on my fantasy. We could invent anything we want and make a book or a film out of it. Ain't that funny?

Your opinion is free. Believe in whatever you want and share it, but null watch out, not everyone will like your dildo-fantasy :D Just an advice ;)

"Sie wollen nichts anderes. Sie wollen kämpfen! Sie sind Soldaten! Fucking Wahnsinnige!" - Noel G.

This post was edited by Orchid on Jul 18, 2003.

Now, guys, just stop this discussion, it's not worth it. It's up to everyone self if he or she wants to believe whatever.

I have to agree With Orchid; let's let this thread rest in peace before it eventually gets ugly?

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

let's let this thread rest in peace before it eventually gets ugly?

Mmh... you may be right :-)

Aah, una bella finestra!

I don't believe in flying dildos but it turns on my fantasy.

Very well, goal achieved. :-P

Aah, una bella finestra!

how can you deny the existence of giant flying dildos?

You've made a believer out of me, null.

You've made a believer out of me, null.

w00t! My first fanboy!

Thanks for the laugh, mace! :-D

Aah, una bella finestra!

...Guess..You need proof !

Maybe you should just break down and Clean your Bong, once in a while.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

This post was edited by alx on Jul 20, 2003.

Maybe you should just break down and Clean your Bong, once in a while.

Yeah right. Personal attacks are an appropriate way to continue a discussion when you're out of arguments. Boy, you're soo cool now.
Go away and don't reply to my posts again unless you've got something worth reading.

Aah, una bella finestra!

Perhaps he was making a serious point, null.

Maybe it's easier to believe in UFOs with a cleaner bong? ^_^
I'm certain this is true for flying dildos. . .

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

This post was edited by Magnifico on Jul 20, 2003.

The evidence is out there that flying dildos exist though. I see them all the time - the government just keeps on stopping me from spreading the truth.

Gotta go, someone's at the door...

Time to take your med's ?

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

*clean* *clean* *rub* *polish*

*mix* *roll*

*fill*

*light*

Wooow...

I SEE DEAD UFOS!

Aah, una bella finestra!

I see dead men walking, no brains, no intelligence, like real humans.....

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

I see dead men walking, no brains, no intelligence, like real humans.....

alx, when talking to you it would be like: I see dumb people!
What about you just let the topic rest and leave us alone? Calling us brainless because we don't buy your UFO story isn't gonna increase your credibility, you know. All you'll achieve is people making fun of the topic (and probably you). I know I would like to. ;-)

...And I see that I'm gonna have to head for the airport in 40 minutes, and I still need to shower and dress. Bye everybody!

Aah, una bella finestra!

Geez, why does everyone think that ufo's are a complete haulcination? Is it the stubborn man that says i need to see it for my self to know its real? Seeing isnt beliveing, and if you rely on that all your life, you'll never realize the world and its wonders..... Now im not saying to just belive in anything.... Its good to question authory and life... But since i have actually seen a ufo, i believe, but even before i was still open to the concept.

Its called not being closed minded....

But think what u want.......

"We All Live In A World Of Political Subsitution." -Serj Tankian

I came to the conclusion that wether you believe in UFO's or not, it makes no difference, ich i now decide to believe in UFO's, I would still live my life as I did before.

Sure if you get paranoid and go to gathering of people who are praying to UFO's or so, IMHO that's stupid (ok you may discuss on this point...) and changes something, but just the point if you believe in UFo's or not doesn't change anything.

So why the big fuss, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU BELIEVE IN UFO'S OR NOT

so come on kids, be nice to each other again, hug each other, give em a kiss, and go different ways so that you don't see each other anymore...

cya Magic

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

What I'm trying to say is - I could also call you close-minded for not believing in giant flying dildos. There is as much proof (or lack thereof) for my dildo theory as is for UFOs.

Note: being open-minded does not mean you believe anything.

On a side note, what problem do you have with somebody not believing in UFOs? All I keep hearing is crap like "small minds need big proof", or that "closed-minded" stuff. What about my right for my own opinion?

Aah, una bella finestra!

Refering to yourself as US...well is just weard..since you speak only for yourself as I do.

Ok..forget refering to it all as UFO's...& think of it as just life in the universe.
So, without proof...Earth & Man are the only life in the Universe.. reaching a moon & or planet?
Here in good ole US of A...we have reached these goals , & are not stopping till, well the rest of the Globe go's balistic, & ends up killing us all.
Say that should happen...we destroy ourselves..
Then the Universe is empty? No More Humans...any where in the Universe...! Till, some monkey grow's up to becomes a Man..,
again on some distant far off planet..RIGHT..!
You keep thinking your the top of the food chain...in the World, Earth..Solar System...Universe...Yea..You keep thinking that...

I guess you think this is the way History forms itself...Waiting for proof.
If a brick fell from the sky...& hit you on the head...would you think the sky is falling ? Its proof it may just be.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Refering to yourself as US...well is just weard

It may be hard for you to believe, but I'm not the only one not believing in every obviously faked UFO picture.

So, without proof...Earth & Man are the only life in the Universe.. reaching a moon & or planet?

Just in case you're implying that I've stated something like that, please point out the corresponding post of mine.

You keep thinking your the top of the food chain...in the World, Earth..Solar System...Universe...Yea..You keep thinking that...

Where did I say that?

I guess you think this is the way History forms itself...Waiting for proof.

Where did I say that?

If a brick fell from the sky...& hit you on the head...would you think the sky is falling? Its proof it may just be.

I'm starting to feel bored. What about you cut the personal insults and the like, and start coming up with real arguments? Otherwise we may as well let this topic rest, because honestly I can't see much value in it.

Aah, una bella finestra!

Guess you now think that my Proof demands more Proof !

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Guess you now think that my Proof demands more Proof !

Well no, actually I'm thinking that your Pocket HTML skills demand more Pocket HTML skills. :-) Besides, the image isn't there even with the fixed link.

Anyways, having found the image (it's here), what exactly did you say is it proving?

Aah, una bella finestra!

Thanks but No Thanks !

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Thanks but No Thanks !

Thanks for what? Better answer my question instead of saying some completely-out-of-context thing!

Aah, una bella finestra!

Hmmm it is my newly formed opinion that the UFO could be a giant flying Dildo. After all a UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object. As for opinions...I love 'em and have many (often unexpressed) of my own.

--Jami Yeah, that's gonna sting in the morning.

Maybe it's easier to believe in UFOs with a cleaner bong?

Well, I've done extensive research into this field lately. No, not UFOs. I'm talkin' 'bout bongs.

The results show me that a dirtier bong would make it easier, not harder, to believe in UFOs. When you vaporize cannabis indica leaves, the resin, which contains the good stuff tetrahydrocannabinol, stains the inside of the pipe. This would make the "hit" or "toke" much more powerful, and would affect one's perception much more greatly, as it would bring a much greater "high" or "wicked 'fucking' buzz"

The results could use field-testing, though. . .

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

This post was edited by Magnifico on Jul 28, 2003.

The results show me that a dirtier bong would make it easier, not harder, to believe in UFOs. When you vaporize cannabis indica leaves [...]

These are very interesting thoughts indeed.

The results could use field-testing, though. . .

I will gladly help you with this, and carry out some water pipe experiments for comparison, while watching Spaceballs or Mars Attacks in order to sensibilize my brain waves for this kind of experience. We all must make sacrifices for science!

Aah, una bella finestra!

Need some more help? I could organize a REALLY Dirty bong for you ;)

And a clean one too...but we need to test different sorts, maybe it depends on it

(Anyone knows a University that would Sponsor our VERY expensive long-time Field-testing?)

cya Magic

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

When you vaporize cannabis indica leaves, the resin, which contains the good stuff tetrahydrocannabinol, stains the inside of the pipe.

Agreed! :)

But here's an important tip: Make sure the "enriched" contents of the bong never gets spilled onto a carpet! Ever. Smells like something you'd relate to a (dead) dog, as far as my remaining brain cells can remember, and you won't get it out easy either...

Pick it
Pack it
Fire it up, come along
And take a hit from the bong
Put the blunt down
Just for a second
Don’t get me wrong
It’s not a new method
Inhale
Exhale
Just got an ounce in the mail
I like a blunt or a big fat cone
But my double-barrel bong
Is gettin’ me stoned
I’m skill it
There’s water inside don’t spill it
It smells like shit on the carpet
Still it
Goes down smooth when I get a clean hit
Of the skunky, phunky, smelly green shit
Sing my song
Puff all night long
As I take hits from the bong
Hits from the bong y’all

That makes me a sa-a-a-a-a-ad Panda...

Smells like something you'd relate to a (dead) dog, as far as my remaining brain cells can remember, and you won't get it out easy either...

I'm not sure if either of these are marketed over yonder, beyond ye grande ponde, but there are two solutions to such a stench: Febreeze, a moste powerful fabric cleaner, which is by all means a boon to those who are none to fond of doing laundry. The other product is Nag Champa incense, which is by far the most powerful smelling incense I know. I sat in a room with two people smoking pot for four hours, and they lit one stick of nag champa at the end, and I could only smell incense in my clothes afterwards. It's amazing stuff.

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

Another problem is that that cave painting could be any number of things, it's just a simple shape. We superimpose our own mythologies on top of it and see this simple two dimensional design as a flying saucer.

Do I doubt that there is life in the universe outside of the earth? Of course not, and likely there are MANY intelligent species. Do I think that it is physically possible to traverse huge distances in space? Perhaps. Do I think that any alien species that have this technology would go to the trouble to visit our remote arm of the galaxy? I doubt it. So, according to Ockham's Razor, the simplest explanation is usually true. So what's simpler: that an intelligent race first of all knew we would be here, and second of all, had the wherewithal, time, and concern to come all the way out to our remote arm of the galaxy to visit, all the while remainind clandestine and leaving behind at best circumstantial, inconclusive evidence of their visit, or that people are lonely and delusional and invent other intelligent life, as they have done for millenia with religion? I find that the latter is the simpler and more plausible solution.

Ewige Blumenkraft!

Alx,

i would like to let you know i have an interest in the unknown as well, but to be honest, your posts have had very little to say, and i would love to see you make one good point using actual evidence, it will greatly increase mine, and probably a lot of other people's respect for your post. as for the references to investigatios of UFO's, are you talking about Blue Book, Grudge, and the like that came about after the "crash" in New Mexico, 1947?

Before I answer any question..I want you to know im Christian..and well knowing you follow Wicca, It would end up and endless debate, which I hate.
That said, I would like you and everyone to know , I CAN NOT give the proof...that UFO's exist...I just believe they do...& not just UFO's...but that life elsewhere in the Universe has visited us here on Earth...
I feel that the FORCE..."luke" is real life,...Not what we all may think ...but that Life, Human Life has interceded in man's evolution.
Having Ideas that even refer to religion, such as visions & miracles, prophecies & events in man's history which may be intercedings by forces outside of Earth.
Now Proof...I can not give you the Proof because its not an equations such as E=MC2...I feel to understand..life beyond Earth...You have to have a mind that is not, well, limited to todays events...and selfserving materialistit ways,
An Advanced civiliation...advanced compaired to us here on earth , having abilities beyond our understandings...in our evolution, not understanding why we don't have Proof..from them..if they are there...
The Mind must first realize it has to advance also..not just advanced in technology but in an advanced way, that we today do not understand...
But what we have been given to see, know, learn as the Proof, is a reflection in a mirror...of what we believe as a whole, or as a populated earth.
In other words..we are not ALL ready for the reality.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

In other words..we are not ALL ready for the reality.

If you choose to believe things without even any suggestion of proof, then you are the one who isn't ready for reality. And I think that seems very plain to most everyone here besides yourself.

Assuming the universe is infinate, there must be other intelligent life out there. However, it is very highly unlikely that any of it is within reach of us. Not impossible, but very VERY unlikely.

Although, your argument is as valid as any other religious argument. If someone here posted a picture of Jesus and said, "a tremendous amount of literature... blah blah blah," they wouldn't get as much flack for it as you have. I bet a even a few people who have argued with you here would try and tell me there is a god. People are hypocrites.

The Mind must first realize it has to advance also..not just advanced in technology but in an advanced way, that we today do not understand...

One of the most important things in our evolution will be our desire to gain understanding. Accepting things on faith works in the opposite direction. Allowing yourself to believe something without questioning it, or without requiring some sort of evidence prevents you from gaining an understanding of reality. Personally, I find it really sad that most people think faith is a good thing, but we've had that discussion before.

Really disagree totally!
Hey did you know that the Earth is Flat ! Sure read the newspapers..and you will see !
You know..If God wanted man to fly...he would have given us Wings...Hum-Bug...what a Dumb idea..Man Flying ! heheh

Only arrogance..To think...or rather to EXPECT Earth's Man..to fill the Universe with intelligence life, while the Universe is a Zillion Years older than the Earth...let alone "today's earths man"

It just sets me firmly into my belief's that Humans have better abilities to think in directions that differ from Arrogance, pointing them in a joint future towards more intelligence, or rather, possable higher abilities to create civilizations..that think of positive existances...moving upward..rather than...fighting towards darkness, finding that faith has left them behind like the unbelivers...of the Days of Noah !

Go Figure.
& if it doesn't make sence to you and you crowd, I say to you...
LAUGH, MOCK, THROW STONE'S, HANG ME, NAIL ME TO A CROSS, BURN ME AT THE STAKE, just gather the hyena together to devower, that which you fear, a high understanding than yourselves.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

& if it doesn't make sence to you and you crowd, I say to you...
LAUGH, MOCK, THROW STONE'S, HANG ME, NAIL ME TO A CROSS, BURN ME AT THE STAKE, just gather the hyena together to devower, that which you fear, a high understanding than yourselves.

If we were going to do anything like that to someone who didn't make sence, it would have happened a long time ago, alx.

the Universe is a Zillion Years older than the Earth

actually, the earth is supposed to have been around for about 4.55 billion years, while the universe measures in at the tender young age of 10 billion years

Hey did you know that the Earth is Flat ! Sure read the newspapers..and you will see !

Our planet has the shape of a banana. Every decent Monty Python knows that.

Is it just me, or are your replies less and less related to what you're replying to?

Aah, una bella finestra!

Dude, I swear when I went to get the newspaper this morning I saw this very forum thread on the street. I even took a photo!

As long as you're having fun guys :)

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

This post was edited by Jaz on Aug 05, 2003.

Damnit. I had a *huge* post typed out in response to this - it took me half an hour to write and then IE crashed and lost it, and even though i copied it to the clipboard, it failed to keep it. damnit.

They will never forget you 'til somebody new comes along... - The Eagles, "New Kid in Town"

The Save as draft button should be your best friend.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Dude, I swear when I went to get the newspaper this morning I saw this very forum thread on the street. I even took a photo!

Jaz - prove you took that photo. I'm small-minded, i need HARD PROOF........damnit..!

Man this thread is getting old. It's pretty obvious that alx's enlightened (read: drugged up) brain is incapable of making normal conversation. It seems to start at the start and end at the start, and doesn't provide any room for others' opinions. And what's with all the full-stop's (.)? Jeez alx, the big long button at the bottom of the keyboard is there to put gaps between the words.....

Now I know that everything above this paragraph is going to be rated at 0%, so let everything below try to raise that score a little.

I don't believe in any god or religion. I believe in evolution. I believe that it's a huge coincidence, a one-off chance that we're here. However, the probability of us *not* evolving pails in comparison to the size of the universe, and the one-off chances that must occur in multiple places, every second as time goes on.

I also believe that intelligent life, either as intelligent or moreso (it's almost definite that life less as intelligent as us exists in the universe) exists somewhere.

And hell, who knows? Perhaps there's a race out there that isn't so busy kicking seven bells of shit out of itself that it's actually discovered interstellar travel. Perhaps at some point there have been alien visitors here. Perhaps not.

If there have been alien visitors, which I believe there *may* have been, though the universe is a huge place. But if they have or did come, what could be the reason? I don't believe in flying saucers (or as I like to call them, two plates stuck together face-on and dangled from fishing wire) or little green men. There's a reason we've evolved the way we have, and thats because we've evolved to suit our environment.

I don't believe all these sightings of UFOs. Why don't I believe them? For the following reasons.

Unless the alien race is psychologically inclined, why would they be interested in us, a sub-intelligent, feudal species which is too busy killing each other to explore the wide universe?

Are they scientists? I don't believe that an alien race which has discovered interstellar travel could manage long without realising that with it is required advance medical technology. And why would an alien with advanced medical technology need to repeatedly abduct and experiment on humans and cows? And why cows? An alien race with that kind of technology should have unlocked the secrets of DNA, since we're nearly there and we can barely walk, and should be able to find our everything they need to know form one strand of hair.

Are they warmongers? Are the UFO sightings actually scout ships come to gather intelligence before an invasion? No. Who would want to invade a planet when by the time your invasion force gets there the human race has wiped itself out anyway? Warmongers like a challenge, and a worthy opponent.

Are they refugees? Are they looking for a new home? No. Since an alien race with such technology could probably model our environmental data for the next 5000 years on their equivalent of a gameboy SP, i doubt they'd keep sending ships to see if that pesky carbon-based atmosphere had disappeared yet.

Are their young pushed out? Some birds push their chicks out of the nest at a certain age, to force them to learn to fly and to make their own way in life. Do the aliens believe in pushing their young out in a ship? Are they following a memorized route, using Earth as a giant landmark, like geese in migration may use a mountain range?

Are they taking the piss? Are they playing with us, and having a right old laugh at us?

Who knows? More importantly, who can prove it? To that, I say no-one. Just like Einstein could no more prove that travelling faster than light would take you back in time. It was a theory. So are UFOs. Until one lands in my back yard and shakes my hand, this is what I'll continue to believe.

Anyway, rant over

I hope some of you enjoyed reading my ideas

- J

P.S. (i hope it bloody posts this time i'm not typing it all out again)

They will never forget you 'til somebody new comes along... - The Eagles, "New Kid in Town"

This post was edited by jbooker on Aug 05, 2003.

Are they taking the piss? Are they playing with us, and having a right old laugh at us?

I'm sure that, if there is intelligent life in the universe, that they are probably enjoying whatever psychoactive substances (perhaps they dropped off psilocybin 'shrooms? gotta wonder about why shrooms are so different from every other plant on the planet) and occasionally come by to see how we're enjoying the trip.

No doubt they're very, very upset about how anal we've gotten about mushrooms. We've built up a culture of mycophobes, eradicating multiple cultures that have been shown to be mycocentric (the Israelites, for example, or the thousands of shamanic civilizations around the world). We've begun to look back to mushrooms as the foundatin for religion, now. We're looking back in time, and I'm sure we're bound to find the little green men in that history somewhere (Nephilim, perhaps?).

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

perhaps they dropped off psilocybin 'shrooms?

Now that sure is an interesting theory! How 'spaced' out (haha) do 'shrooms feel in comparison to other drugs? Do we have volunteers for field experiments? (We could also coordinate this with the ongoing clean/dirty bong research for more data!)

Aah, una bella finestra!

It all makes sense! The mushrooms are little Flying Dildos, brought to us by the spacemen to show us how to reach hyperspace, where they reside, in an ongoing Rave/orgy (not unlike Berlin, my friend Swain tells me). Once there, we will have assumed total spiritual creaminess, and may forever live, in unity, as one with teh dildos.

And as much as I'd like to add psilocybin to the research project, there's one small problem:

That's right. Grandma keeps taking 'em for her special spaghetti sauce.

(seriously, though, shrooms are special. . .

Well, I'm not wedded to any of this. I just simply state the facts, and the facts are that, not DMT so much, which is pretty common in many plants and animals, but psilocybin. Psilocybin is 4-phosphoryloxy-NN-dimethyltryptamine. This is slightly technical, but it is the only 4-phosphorylated indole on this planet. That's strange because the way biology works is if you have a molecule useful in a biological system, then in other biological systems you will get that same molecule or tiny variants; methylated or o-methylated. So here is psilocybin with the only hydrolation in the 4 position on the planet.

-Terence McKenna, interviewed in The Resonance Project 3)

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

This post was edited by Magnifico on Aug 06, 2003.

I must say, it all makes perfect sense. Orchestra, a fanfare for Magnifico for his excellent research!

The Truth must no longer be kept secret!

(Shsht... hey... any chance your Grandma would invite me for dinner the next time she plans to make spaghetti?)

Aah, una bella finestra!

This post was edited by null on Aug 06, 2003.

Heh... I once saw that picture with the caption "Not my job".

This post was edited by mace on Aug 05, 2003.

Your phallic obsessions say far less than their real meaning,
why do you obsessively continue to deny that you don't for one min. , even for a tiny moment..Completly Understand what im saying in my posts...?
If you just enjoy joining the wolfpack, gorging on the blood, & flesh,
Yet I could refer you or anyone here..., as a buzzard eating scraps left over by the real tigers..Yet I have yet to find any reply to any of my posts...that I can compare to as Lion type or kingly destroyers.
ANYONE !
Can you tell me the differance between Neanderthal & Modern Man?

& to some of the other posts to my wacky belief's.......
Your all intitled to your opinions, remembering that they are like ass***** Everyone has one !

Just a final expression...to the English Teacher who found it undyingly necessary to correct my writing abilities.... " YOU GO GIRL ! "

A final Note:
Go outside...& look up....what you see...is not new...in fact..it's all been there long before the ground your standing upon..So if you think that a Monkey...decied once, a long time ago...to stand up stright...and look up...as you are.
It only stands to reason why you think the way you do.

Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx

Well, you've managed to go even further off the wall this time. I'm not so sure the people who've replied to your increasingly bizarre posts will appreciate the light you've painted them in. Simply for having differing opinions. This whole last post could easily have been ripped straight from a von Danniken book. We're all entitled to our opinions and the existence of extra-terrestrial life has neither been fully proven OR disproven. But surely, rather than argueing the toss in here to a people who's minds you WON'T change with a bunch of stills (most of which I've already seen) and rambling rhetoric, you could do something worthwhile with that enormous belief and determination of yours. Maybe you could work yourself to try and find ACTUAL proof. Join an astronomy group, download SETI@Home, something. Just not fill up this forum with post after post of essentially the same thing whilst you slowly alienate (hah!) all of the members in this community.
Oh, and by the way, the "..." for spaces ARE annoying. And it wasn't Mr Booker being pedantic. It does make for difficult reading.

This post was edited by Flatline on Aug 06, 2003.

Well, you've managed to go even further off the wall this time. I'm not so sure the people who've replied to your increasingly bizarre posts will appreciate the light you've painted them in.

Yes, I agree. I've read and re-read my post, and I still can't find any phallic references

This whole last post could easily have been ripped straight from a von Danniken book.

Who's that then?

But surely, rather than argueing the toss in here to a people who's minds you WON'T change with a bunch of stills ...

I once heard about repetitive shock training, where animals were trained not to do certain things by electric shock (for example, sheep don't tend to go near the electric fence surrounding their pen much after their x000th shock).

I don't understand how this doesn't apply here. You'd think, after so many flames and bashes he'd change his content, instead of saying the same things in different ways.

And it wasn't Mr Booker being pedantic

Me? Pedantic? Never!

They will never forget you 'til somebody new comes along... - The Eagles, "New Kid in Town"

Who's that then?

Erich von Däniken (or Daeniken) is a most (in-)famous SETI "researcher" around here. He must have written like a gazillion books about how regular historians deliberately ignore facts to present us with the incorrect history of human evolution. According to him (and his friends), there existed some very advanced civilization only a few thousand years ago, heavily influenced by aliens who were always present (and sometimes may have changed our DNS to accelerate our evolution). He finds support for this in Egyptian hieroglyphs remotely resembling a giant deformed lightbulb, ancient cave paintings of UFOs (sometimes said to smell like fresh paint), and petrified hammers classified to be late 19th century by scientists but claimed to be around 5000 years old by their owner.
Däniken is a real pro when it comes to taking facts out of scientific books, leaving out anything not fitting his theories, and then bending the rest so that it supports his argumentations.
Two of Erich's friends are Johannes von Buttlar and Ex-Dr.* Hans-Joachim Zillmer. Generally the three support each other's theories in their books and make a large part of AAS.

---
* Zillmer (supposedly) voluntarily abandoned his doctor's title when it became public that he never studied but instead bought the title from an Eastern Bloc university.

Aah, una bella finestra!

why do you obsessively continue to deny that you don't for one min. , even for a tiny moment..Completly Understand what im saying in my posts...?

I think you're confusing something here. I may get the basic meaning of what you're trying to say, but some of what you write just doesn't make sense... be it because it's completely out of context, or just not recognizable as an English phrase. (Note that I'm not mentioning the obvious bashings here.) And as some kind soul already pointed out - using correct interpunction would greatly improve the readability of your posts.

Your phallic obsessions say far less than their real meaning,

Are you talking about the Giant Flying Dildo™?
Boy, I have a feeling that you don't get a joke when it has "PRANK" written all over it, is that so?
Anyway, you still haven't proven me wrong about my dildo theory. I'm sure I could find some cave and medieval paintings with phallus-like objects in them, which would support my theory. See, it's that easy! :-)

Can you tell me the differance between Neanderthal & Modern Man?

Sure, but that'd take a while. If you don't know it I think you're better off looking it up yourself. While you're at it, check out the whole evolution story. You might be astounded how much is possible without small green guys changing our DNA every couple of thousand years or so.

Your all intitled to your opinions, remembering that they are like ass***** Everyone has one !

If that is so (and I'm not asking you for the first time), what entitles you to call people ignorant simply because they don't share your opinion? (-->e.g. concerning UFOs)
Why does it seem so hard for you to just accept that some people don't believe in UFOs, that they don't want to change their opinion based on the "proof" you deliver? Is it so hard to accept this? All I ever hear from you is "only small minds need proof", or all in all loosely translated, "if you deny that THEY are here then you're closed-minded and denying the facts." If this is a misunderstanding maybe you could clarify it, but if it's not then I really don't see any grounds for further discussions!

Aah, una bella finestra!

Can you tell me the differance between Neanderthal & Modern Man?

Sure, but that'd take a while. If you don't know it I think you're better off looking it up yourself. While you're at it, check out the whole evolution story. You might be astounded how much is possible without small green guys changing our DNA every couple of thousand years or so.

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As far as I know, from newest research, the Homo Neanderthalensis in fact isn't an ancestor of modern humans, he's a group of evolded apes that split from the way of Human evolution and got extincted. So there's much difference.

If that is so (and I'm not asking you for the first time), what entitles you to call people ignorant simply because they don't share your opinion? (-->e.g. concerning UFOs)
Why does it seem so hard for you to just accept that some people don't believe in UFOs, that they don't want to change their opinion based on the "proof" you deliver? Is it so hard to accept this? All I ever hear from you is "only small minds need proof", or all in all loosely translated, "if you deny that THEY are here then you're closed-minded and denying the facts." If this is a misunderstanding maybe you could clarify it, but if it's not then I really don't see any grounds for further discussions!

More and More, I get the opinion that Alx is a Chatbot, programmed by some crazy scientist with bad rhetoric and grammar, with only one objection, to convert poor forum users to his fellow believers. And as you know, a machine or program only stops when:
a) It's battery/power source runs out
b) It's OS crashes (So running a PC with Windows is like building a suicide machine)
c) It gets destroyed

otherwise it will carry on it's functionality with no mery until we are all brainwashed, wearing plastic jumpsuits with those bubble like thingis they use to safely ship deliveries (anyone saw "Hey dude, where's my car"?).

So Alx, go Solve your Rubik Cube to get the intergalactical mighty special weapon thing or start writing intelligent Posts.

You wont convince anyone if you go into a "Ohh you people don't belive me you are so bad guys and you all lie buhuuuu" position, it just makes you more incredible (coming from the actual meaning of In (not) and credible).

I propose you think about it seriously, If you got a serious point to make that could convince us, or, just leave us dummies alone in our stupidity and laugh about us because we denied the present of wisdom you tried to give us, having the certain knowledge that we are all doomed to burn in an intergalactical hell if we don't believe in UFO's

looking forward to hearing from you (put my brainwaves to 66.6 mhz) so just telepath me if you like to talk ;)

cya and a good time Magic

P.s.

A picture proving that back in Ancient Greece a woman found a crashed Giant Flying Dildo, and, believing it came from the God of Zeus, made it to one of the greatest relics of Greece, but sadly it got destroyed in the 4th century a.d.

Also, back in Ancient Egypt, the God Osiris was said to have traveled from a far away Sun to Earth on a Giant Flying Dildo to bring luck to the people. In the background of the image you see different types of Giant Flying Dildos, wich may be proof that they are still working and improving their Giant Flying Dildos

A mesopotamian Goddess, carrying a Giant Flying Dildo in her hands, a symbol of Power and Force, because the Giant Flying Dildos were seen as the ancestors of all gods back then.

The front of this tablet describes: on one night, in the 7th month, of the 162nd year, the beginning and middle of the night was cloudy. But later on, when de moon reached 1 1/2 cubits, the sky suddenly cleared and a shiny light, coming from a Giant Flying Dildo, came down on earth and healed the King Utuk of Ur, because he had to fulfill his destiny and unite all of Mesopotamia.
The king lifed long until he was buried with honour in the tombs of ur
(Tablet was found in the Toms of Ur in 1934 by C. Leonard Wolley who excavted the Ancient Sumerian City of Ur)

That's as far as i got with my Giant Flying Dildo research, maybe there have also been cavepaintings, but Extraterrestrial Phallulogy hasn't discovered any proof of Giant Flying Dildos visitng earth before mesopotamian times, so maybe man had to evolve to a certain level to be worthy of being visited by Giant Flying Dildos

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

This post was edited by Magicdead on Aug 06, 2003.

I just recieved a picture from a secret source which has to go to public

This is Sandy M. Dawnson and since her husband got caught by a Giant Flying Dildo..............................she does research into this field.......................on this picture...............you see her...............with...................a................Little Flying Dildo............which................she.............captured.............recently.

Because the governement doesn't want the public........................to see this pictures..............., they "silenced" Miss Dawnson..................hiding all evidence..........of Flying Dildos................but................they...............can't................hide............the............truth......................THEY EXIST...................THEY ARE OUT THERE

Now bow before my punctuation and believe me!!

mhh damn now this Thread got me as far as writing a post like this....well but the Image sure looks cool and at least proves the existence of Little Flying Dildos, said to be the daughterships of the Giant ones

cya Magic

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

This post just made my day.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Magic, you should become a politician. Your natural talent to bullshit people is incredible!

Anyway, thanks for the laughs! :-D

Aah, una bella finestra!

I for one want to hear more from Alx - it's highly entertaining.

I for one want to hear more from Alx - it's highly entertaining.

Yeah, but then he should be moved to the Jokes forum.

Aah, una bella finestra!

This post was edited by null on Aug 06, 2003.

Glad you liked my post: )

Why don't we write a book about UGFD (Unknown Giant Flying Dildos...for 350$ we could register this as a trade mark)?

Or selling Do-it-Yourself UGFD Building Kits?

cya Magic

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

Or selling Do-it-Yourself UGFD Building Kits?

Hmmm. Might adversely affect children's sexual education when they get their hands on them.

Aah, una bella finestra!

Hmm yes I would feel tiny between my legs too when seeing a 100 metres long Giant Flying Dildo, that can really affect children.

You're right.

How about minature UGFD in a bottle?

or wait "I survived the GIANT FLYING DILDO" T-shirts

I am dreaming of a beatiful and good world, where all people are happy together and where there are Giant Flying Dildos everywhere, GFD pans in the kitchen, GFD's with weels as cars(aerodynamic form solves our problem with oil), GFD airplanes. Or Giant "Giant Flying Dildo"-shaped Skyscrapers that are proven to resist Storms, earthquakes and Godzilla(Well the american shitty godzilla, you can never resist the japanese Godzilla, he's tooo huge and mighty). Imagine the first man landing on the moon in a human-built GFD saying "This is a small step for a man, but a huge step for dildotity". OUR GFD WILL UNITE THE WORLD!!!!!!!

Man that stuff was really good...gimme another on...oh yeah ;)

cya Magic

P.s. Further talks are only possible when my manager is there

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

Magicdead, have you ever thought about co-founding a sect?

Aah, una bella finestra!

Well i came to the conclusion that those little human beings are not worthy of my effort, I AM GODLIKE *DiabolicLaughter*

No, in reality, a sect is good when you find enough stupid people and get them to pay you money (Aliens don't like Money, you have to put all your money on my Swiss Bank Account (hehe i really got a swiss bank account :) ) to get enlightened by the aliens) well but I've never been a fanatic or fundamentalist and so I lack the two things it needs to be leader of a real sect.

If you have them both, co-founding wouldn't be bad.

Our secret prayer/saying-Hello-thingy is forming a dildo with our hands and saying "Wush".

hmmm...been thinking about a Dildo shaped "Pipe of peace and Spiritual freedom" we have to smoke in every GFD gathering

but to build a sect, you need a homepage. A sect with no homepage is nothing, it's lesser than nothing. I mean, christ have a homepage, buddhism has a homepage, Scientology has a homepage and George Bush has a Homepage. This proves that a sect/religion needs a homepage.
But there are so many sects, we need a hyper-sect, we can't only have a .com or .org presence, WE NEED HTTP://GFD.GFD.GFD/ ;)

the only bad thing with a sect, why do those members always commit suicide? And who has to clean the whole mess? Yeah sure, the leader...It sucks to be the leader of a suicide sect.

Well mail me about future plans

cya Magic

P.s. Mhh If I see a Movie called "Attack of the Giant Flying Dildos" in cinema, my lawyer will get a big reward for us because of copy-right and so on ;)

P.p.s For further talk (the sect has to be secret, secret gatherings have much more style than beeing public) you can talk to me over my ICQ ;) 99047444

Ah yeah, I just bought our personal sect zeppelin:

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

This post was edited by Magicdead on Aug 06, 2003.

been thinking about a Dildo shaped "Pipe of peace and Spiritual freedom" we have to smoke in every GFD gathering

Don't forget Grandma's spaghetti!

Our secret prayer/saying-Hello-thingy is forming a dildo with our hands and saying "Wush".

Nope. L. Ron Hubbard and his Fantastic Wealthy Sheep took this one. Only, technically, the "wush" sounds different, because it's almost more like a "baaa" like a lamb being led to slaughter.

As for that Zepplin. . . curious, the dark texture of the material. Why, is that a . . . lead zepplin? (sorry, sorry)

And where the hell are you guys getting all of these pictures of wankers? Is there some kind of planetdildo.com that I'm missing out on?

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

This post was edited by Magnifico on Aug 06, 2003.

Well I used google for most of my Pics, but the one with the old woman was given to my by my mom (it's some kind of artist building Dildo like art to symbolize the men...woah my mom can talk hours about that stuff...)

And then some usual old Windows Paint to change some little things

Ah about the old pictures....you wouldn't believe how pervert and horny the old greek people were, we have a whole book full of pictures like that, was rather hard to find somthing fitting egyptians or sumerians

well yes that about it with the background story

cya Magic

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

Don't forget Grandma's spaghetti!

Of course not! Smoking makes hungry, after all :-P

Our secret prayer/saying-Hello-thingy is forming a dildo with our hands and saying "Wush".

I like that! Screw Hubbard and his Sheep, We're gonna be bigger than them anyway.

Why, is that a . . . lead zepplin?

I'd suggest we use black rubber. It seems more appropriate to me.

And where the hell are you guys getting all of these pictures of wankers?

Google is your friend. :-) (The original Holy Dildo™ is the fourth result on the second page. But you should also check out the second pic on the first page!)

Aah, una bella finestra!

lead zepplin?

PS, was this wordplay intentional? :-)

Aah, una bella finestra!

I've been working on a logo for the sect

basic Picture made with Maya 5.0, then added some stuff with photoshop, hope you like it ;)

cya Magic

[Edit] Well the pic is a little too big for my NAO window, seems there is no frame resizeing, well here's the link

Giant Flying Dildos-Logo

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

This post was edited by Magicdead on Aug 07, 2003.

I like it!

Aah, una bella finestra!

Wow, I now worship the GFD. A good sect also needs a set of comandemnts.

Prototype of Comandments:

1. If ever in the presence of a GFD one must always make the sign of the dildo and say 'Wush', never turn your attention away
2. In the presence of sect leaders always assume that a sacrifice is due.
3. Never spill the sacrificial pipe.
4. Work only on Monday.

That's all I can think up right now.

--Jami Yeah, that's gonna sting in the morning.

Is there something in the (bong)water in Central Europe that makes you guys so creative? If so, how much would it cost to import a whole bunch of this water?

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

Well, I have no idea about Central Europe, I happen to be American, and believe it or not I don't toke (very often). And thanks, if that was a compliament. Most people just think I'm odd.

--Jami Yeah, that's gonna sting in the morning.

Sorry to intrude on your sect creation, guys, but some people have already beaten you to the creation of a religion centered on the worship of the phallus. :-) The ancient religion that worsipped Shiva worshipped his anthropomorpic form the lingam, a.k.a his Giant Phallus. The following legend proves his superiority over the other Hindu gods, Brahma and Vishnu.

"Vishnu was engaged in his yoganidhra - the slumber of yoga - at the end of a kalpa, in the waters of the great deluge, when there appeared before him, Bhrama emerging from a great illumination. Bhrama introduced himself to Vishnu as the Creator of the Universe, to which Vishnu replied that he was the architect of the Universe. An argument ensued between both as to their superiority over one another, when there appeared before them - a huge lingam of fire - with tongues of flames blazing out of it.

"Curious to trace the origins of this column of fire, Bhrama assumed the form of a swan and flew upwards, while Vishnu assumed the form of a boar, and burrowed down into the earth. Days of search in either direction proved futile, and hence the duo surrendered to this column of fire with prayers. Shiva then appeared out of this column of fiery lingam, with a thousand arms and legs, with the sun, moon and fire as his three eyes, bearing the pinaka bow, wearing the hide of an leephant, bearing the trishul, and addressed Vishnu and Bhrama in a thunderous voice, explaining that the two were born out of him, and that the three were then separated out into three different aspects of divinity.

The non-anthropomorphic form Shivalingam is a representation of this infinite cosmic column of fire, whose origins were not tracable by Bhrama or Vishnu. The Shivalingam is the center of reverence and worship in all Saivite temples."

So you see, although i'm sure all of your posts here are your original ideas, they must have root in our collective racial memory where our ancestors worshipped The Giant Lingam. Because of our advanced technology, however, you have now decided to change the Giant Lingam by attributing to the it the ability of flight and replacing it with the modern dildo which is actually superior and more powerful than most actual lingams.

P.S. Cyborg mentioned that he would like to hear more from alx in order to be entertained. However, have you guys noticed that alx now is rated with one gray star because of all the bad ratings? This means he is now limited to one post per day. perhaps cyborg would like to give alx some "excellent" ratings to keep this fun thread going? it already has like 120 replies. Jaz, is this the longest thread in NAO history?

“To God, there is no zero. I still exist.” Scott Carey, The Incredible Shrinking Man

This post was edited by childeoftheblood on Aug 08, 2003.

Boy, almost three pages full of Dildoistic pics, ideas and rituals.
Kinda makes me wonder if we've got nothing better to do :-P

Well anyway, having some basic rules, now I think we should appoint some kind of administration. Let this be the hierarchy of priests, as it is written in the second book of Schlong, page 123:

"[1] And the best-hung of men shall determine a leader by comparing their sticks, and the dude with the biggest pipe shall be their highest priest. [2] And he shall be called Da Man. [3] And the one with the second-largest rod shall be called Da Cashier. [4] And from the shorter guys he shall receive sacrifical offerings in abundance. [5] And these he shall use to please Da Man. [...]"

I suggest we carry out this election during the next NAO meeting. Might make for an interesting Saturday evening, especially for Ettena and Orchid :-D

Aah, una bella finestra!

This post was edited by null on Aug 08, 2003.

I propose that the Song "hose runter, Schwanzvergleich" (Trousers down, rod/stick Comparison) from J.B.O. will get the official ceremonical song.

Coming from the Sanskrit(old Indian) Word "aditii" which means "Mother of all Gods", clearly their word vor the GFD that came from the Sky, you can see that aditii can get to Dildo over time, with a completely different meaning, because People nowadays forgto the GFD and the forgot what they have all done to us. Our history is linked to the history of GFD like a Base-jumper to his Parachute and thus GFD has to exist, because we all know what happends when you jump and are NOT linked to your parachute. This proves that whole humanity wouldn't be alive if it was not for the GFD, but because we are alive, there have to be GFD. (Woah I get confused by my own arguementation)

Ok, every Religion needs some rules, I'll write the 7 commandments down, as they were given to me by email from a burning computer: (I'll start with the least important commandment and work my way down to the ultimative one)
7. You shall pray to the giant Dildo 9 times a day
6. You shall not doubt the power of people with a bigger rod
5. You shall love your next as much as you love your rod
4. You shall not ask why there's no commandment number 3
2. You shall always follow "Da Man"
1. You shall not transform your gender if you are a male!!!

For the ranks, "Newbies" that just came into the sect will be called In-Sect or just bugs.
Then, you can rise to the status of Temple-servant, so called "Highest form of dildodity which lost the word highest and got it replaced by lowest" or short HFoDwltWHagirbL
Ah yeah, the different ranks are like different communities and so the general word for rank is sect-ion.
Then there will be the title of the Holy-Bar-Keeper who has to serve drinks to the "Holy Believers"
Not to forget the Holy-Toilet-Woman-From-A-Foreign-Country, the person that cleans the toilets and smiles at you when you give her 50 cents.
and another important guy, the Holy-Dildo-Keeper, well just a dude that runs around in a big phat Dildo costume to enlighten the people and to get them aware of dildotity

Ok I just got up from bed and I'm tired, gotta eat some big chocolate cake, some swiss cheese, some kilos of usual chocolat and then play "Alphorn" the whole afternoon. :)

cya Magic

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

(Woah I get confused by my own arguementation)

Doesn't surprise me. :-)

Aah, una bella finestra!

Then there will be the title of the Holy-Bar-Keeper who has to serve drinks to the "Holy Believers"

I call dibs on that one. I'm guessing I could only serve certain drinks, though, and rename the rest. Dare I ask what the drink stirrers look like?

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

Dare I ask what the drink stirrers look like?

It has taken me a while, but what do you think of these?

Aah, una bella finestra!

Excellent. If the didn't glow in the dark however, it'd be a definite no.

--Jami Yeah, that's gonna sting in the morning.

If the didn't glow in the dark however, it'd be a definite no.

Of course.

Aah, una bella finestra!

Grow up! ;)

"Sie wollen nichts anderes. Sie wollen kämpfen! Sie sind Soldaten! Fucking Wahnsinnige!" - Noel G.

Grow up! ;)

Never! :-)

Aah, una bella finestra!

So you see, although i'm sure all of your posts here are your original ideas, they must have root in our collective racial memory where our ancestors worshipped The Giant Lingam.

Heck no, are you too blind to see? The whole Giant Lingam cult was created by Giant Flying Dildos landing on Earth! Shiva is actually a UFO (or better, UFD) the Indians mistook for a god. Do you need some pictures for evidence, or what?
Heck, I thought this was obvious.

:-D

This means he [alx] is now limited to one post per day.

Well... I could give him a few additional posts, but I'm not sure if Jaz would be happy with this, so I'm gonna wait and see if he reads this and tells me not to. After all, I think this function was merely designed to help newbies when they have more interesting things to say than posts left...

Aah, una bella finestra!

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'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

This post was edited by Jaz on Aug 08, 2003.

So, what are you saying Jaz? That we are posting too much in here? That this is a good topic to post on? Hm. If it's the former, then this post really didn't help things.

I just found it to be a funny fact :) You guys may post as much as you want.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Number of posts in this thread with the word "dildo" in it: 28

Perhaps it's time for us to grow up ;-P

Aah, una bella finestra!

Number of posts in this thread with the word "dildo" in it: 28

Actually the database says that there are 42 posts in this thread with the word "dildo" in it.

For reference, there are a total of 14561 posts on Netalive.org, and only 44 of them contain the world "dildo". This is about 0.003%.

Or, in other words, this thread makes up 94,45% of the total dildo density on this site

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Actually the database says that there are 42 posts in this thread with the word "dildo" in it.

Didn't you once tell me that a post is saved as many times as it is edited? I.e. if I write a dildo post and then edit it 5 times, wouldn't that cause 6 dildo-occurrences in the database?
(I get the number 28 from manual counting, which may, of course, be error-prune.)

only 44 of them [posts] contain the world "dildo". This is about 0.003%.

Heck, that's a hell of a bad score. We need to improve that!

Aah, una bella finestra!

Didn't you once tell me that a post is saved as many times as it is edited?

Yeah, yeah... So the new numbers are 32 dildo-posts in this thread (including the last two ones) and 33 total.

Oh yeah, and that single other dildo post was written by null and talks about this thread.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion