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Alright, I see your point about the transferring of the virus. I guess the question now would be: Does Neo know martial arts in the real world? Or does he just know how to stimulate his brain in the matrix to do the martial arts? Cause there hasn't been any fighting in the real world and there’s no way to know it. If the answer is that Neo has learned kung fu then it is totally understandable how the virus goes into the real world… otherwise it’s just a brain stimulation effect.
Also a good point on the unplugging the rebels. But then, how would you explain the choice the architect gives Neo about choosing 20 people to rebuild Zion?
I have the script of the whole movie and I cannot find the answers to these questions… I guess the third part will explain everything...

Does Neo know martial arts in the real world? Or does he just know how to stimulate his brain in the matrix to do the martial arts?

I'd say he knows Kung Fu in the real world but of course he would be limited to the capabilities of his body there. The training program could teach a couch potatoe to be an acrobat inside the Matrix, but to do the same in the real world you still need to train your body into shape.

But then, how would you explain the choice the architect gives Neo about choosing 20 people to rebuild Zion?

The machines need Zion to keep busy the 0.05% of the human population that will always reject the illusion of the Matrix. For those people the whole Zion/resistance farce is being played.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

From what I can gather, the Matrix needs to have a Zion so that they can have a level of control of the free human minds- therefore they can instigate the idea of the prophecy and thus drive the One to his full potential. He is then aimed towards the Source by the Oracle and then his programming (ie his brain pattern) is feed back into the Matrix so that it becomes a better system as it learns more about the nature of humankind.

I watched the film again the other day and enjoyed it more than the first time I saw it and it made a lot more sense? (I think) I noticed more the way in which it parodies the first movie (the whole idea of it being "reloaded") - Neo thinks its all lost then finds his new power, squiddie-zapping! He says at the end "Somethings different, I can feel it now" which is pretty similar to what he says in the phonebooth at the end of the first movie. Thus I think that he is starting to realise his power outside of the matrix, as he was doing at the end of the first fim.

I would also like to add my opinion against the idea of a matrix within a matrix. I would like to think that the Wacko brothers would not go with such a cop out ending- the kind of thing you do when you are writing essays as a kid! Plus the title "Revolutions" leads one to think that something actually happens!

Au revoir.

The more I ponder the Smith question, the more I wonder if maybe he will become semi-alligned with the resistance as a counter-Matrix force; the site Jaz mentioned here talks a lot about growth (spiritual and physical). They mention that the machines really don't change until they have to (Neo becomes the One, then *bing!* Upgraded Agents; the humans torch the sky and the machines then become reliant on human-power, etc.), but humans undergo constant growth. In fact, you see this in the development of the characters: the love between Trinity and Neo (Trinity means three in one, but I thought in Reloaded that it looked more like the One was in "Three." badump-psh!), Morpheus' love interest appears, while the attitude of Cypher stays the same (bad-guy), The Agents only begin to fight in three dimensions when Neo becomes a threat from above as well as from any other directions, etc. However, Smith shows himself to have "grown." He can replicate, he has a purpose beyond seek and destroy, and he's grown away from the Matrix.

It sort of makes you wonder if it'll become "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," since Smith will become a target for the agents of the system to remove. . .

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

I too am in the thinking that Smith will become allies with the resistance in the next movie. The way I see it it seems that there is already a two horse race going on to conquer the Matrix between the resistance and the Merril-Vyngian (?). I think that although Smith is still running along the lines of his original operating commands (trying to kill Neo) he will eventually join the resistance and destroy the Matrix.

The reason for this is that when Neo flew into him in the first movie, Neo "imprinted something on him"- something of human nature & survival. Thus I think that Smith in himself has become partly human and will eventually help the humans, even though he is still trying to kill them now- I thus think that Bane will be an important link between the humans and Smith (seen by the fact that Neo and him are lying head to head on the Hammer at the end of reloaded!)

Anyway, glad you agree with my comments Jaz!

I'm not sure that Smith will join the other side, but there could be some sort of alliance on the whole "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" concept. I don't really know what the Merovingian is trying to do, but the great folks over at fUSION Anomaly made a great point on their n0de about the Matrix: all of the good guys in the first Matrix had round sunglasses, and all of the bad guys had square sunglasses (both Smith and Cypher). In Matrix:Reloaded; guess what Smith has on. . .

6-sided sunglasses. I counted, multiple times, and he's got glasses that aren't really round (a computer's best approximation of round is based on the pixel. . .), but not square. Another one of those little things that only the Wakowski brothers or Akira Kurosawa would've bothered with.

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

Hey I think Agent Smith will and has assisted the Resistance.

How about this for an idea,

Neo didn't stop the sentinels. Neo and everyone were supposed to be killed after they left the matrix by the Sentinels (as The Architect implied), but something changed. Someone in the Real World saved them by doing the most improbable and unhumanly thing imaginable. A human used an EMP wave to destroy one of there main defensive posts, to save the One.

Agent Smith saved Neo and accidently Zion by doing what he did.

A human used an EMP wave to destroy one of there main defensive posts, to save the One.

But why would that save Neo and company?

Hey I think Agent Smith will and has assisted the Resistance.

I believe there will be alliances forged between man and machine in Revolutions. The question is whether it will be Smith who is the other part of the deal. The Revolutions didn't really show Neo and Smith cuddling with each other...

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

OOPs. Sorry.
I am impling that an EMP blast is what stopped the Sentinels from killing Neo.

Thanks for clarifying!

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion