Reading Dreams

Oct 21, 2005 05:16 # 39736

Cain_Mosni * replies...

Re: Sleep Paralysis

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I just now woke up from an experience like this. I've only had about 12 hours of sleep in the last 3 days. This may be the reason for a disruption in the normal sleep cycle. I think that these experiences are truly bizarre because they allow us to semi-consciously observe what is hidden in the dark depths of our minds. In the dream I just awoke from I could not move but I could see my wife next to me. I tried to speak to her but all that seemed to come out of my mouth was a frightening moan.

Behind me, hidden from view was some creature speaking in an odd, possibly old language. It said something like "ahh!! sheaky leegs" and it was making a slurping shivery sound. It was thundering and raining. The scariest thing was that I could not turn around to see what was behind me. When I was finally able to move, I fully expected that it was storming outside but of course, it was not.

This has happened to me before but the dream was completely different but seemed very real.

Jul 21, 2003 23:55 # 14177

childeoftheblood *** posts about...

Re: Sleep Paralysis

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It's always nice to have a scientific explanation for things, but i don't think sleep paralysis explains the recurring demonic theme of your dreams and visions. I suffer from sleep paralysis, too. What usually happens is i actually "think" i had woken up and turned on the lights only to realize moments later that i was still in bed. One night, this happened five times! I was really scared. I thought it would never end and i would forever keep turning the lights only to find out that it didn't happen. In my case, the body part i have to move in order to snap out paralysis is my neck.

As for your demons and voices, well, try to be open-minded--this could be really supernatural. Most of the time, there's a good scientific or at least psychological reason for these cases. At other times, it's a genuine demonic oppression. It would be wise, perhaps, to consult with competent theologians who are into "spiritual warfare." Try to avoid the weirdos, though, who will find demons everywhere.

Have talked to so many people about it,but everyone always just stares at me as if i'm going crazy!

I wouldn't stare at you as if you were crazy. In fact, i know many people who will take you very, very seriously as well. For your sake, i hope there really is nothing supernatural about your case.

“To God, there is no zero. I still exist.” Scott Carey, The Incredible Shrinking Man

Jul 22, 2003 07:36 # 14189

Geneve * replies...

Re: Sleep Paralysis

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There lies so much truth in what you told me,and it is facts like that which makes me shiver.But then again,i have to disagree a little bit because i am a firm believer that one can only become posessesed when one opens the doorway for such demonic activity to enter.If you dont open yourself to something evil like that,you wont become a victim of it.

For your sake, i hope there really is nothing supernatural about your case.

I totally get what you saying,and i truly appreciate your concern that it is not something supernatural.

The last few nights i tried something weird,when i enter the phase between still being awake and partly falling asleep,I listen to the voices,okay,i know it sounds weird,but for me it is a way to get a explanation of what the voices are saying to me.Here and there i catch a word,but it is not in my language,so i am still looking some of those words up,maybe,just maybe there is a message that i need to hear.Maybe I shouldn't do it,because i am opening myself to it,but unfortunately curiosity got the better of me.

Dream of an insomniac

Jul 22, 2003 11:49 # 14191

wizz *** is unsure about...

Re: Sleep Paralysis

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I'm a bit at a loss here since the idea of someone being possessed is so alien to me. To me a demon is just a metaphor for something you can't explain. I don't believe in them literally.

Of course I have no means to prove their non-existence nor do I have any right to call you wrong.
But the reason for this reply: Please, if you are so open-minded to consider supernatural causes, also keep in mind that just maybe it's nothing like that but just your subconsciousness playing a trick on you. (You're last post sounded like you still considered this, but I wanted to emphasize). Believing to be possessed is probably not helpful.

Also, should you decide to seek professional help go to a psychologist rather to an exorcist :-).

The last few nights i tried something weird,when i enter the phase between still being awake and partly falling asleep,I listen to the voices[...]

I think confronting it is not a bad thing.

'Repent, Harlequin!' said the Ticktockman. 'Get stuffed!' the Harlequin replied, sneering.

Jul 22, 2003 12:19 # 14192

Geneve * replies...

Re: Sleep Paralysis

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Being very open-minded as i am,i consider each and every little thing crossing this path i am walking in life to be extremely important to me.Looking at myself,i do realise that i am just a human being after all,with not all of the answers i so desperately seek.To use the term of being posessed is a very strong and scary term to use.I do not believe that i am posessed,i am only keeping the possibility light at heart,because of all the physical torment i go through when i go to sleep,it realy scares me to death.Taking drastic steps as to going to a exorcist is not something on my 'to do list'.I would rather take your advice to go and see a psychologist:-)

maybe it's nothing like that but just your subconsciousness playing a trick on you

I am also keeping in mind that the mind can be extremely powerful,especially when in a state of vulnerability and being on a path of self-discovery,a person tend to look for the answers at the wrong places........

Dream of an insomniac

Jul 23, 2003 23:49 # 14231

childeoftheblood *** posts about...

Re: voices while in paralysis

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The key term i used is demonic "oppression," not possession. Possession is the advanced stage of the process. The difference, i think, is that posession is about the entity taking total control of your body whereas oppression is when the spirit merely torments you physically or emotionally. As for opening oneself to demonic influences, i am yet undecided as to what that exactly means. Some people say this means engaging in occultic activities, whereas the more extreme ones say it's as simple as listening to certain music. Still, others claim that any form of sexual activity (even kissing) with an "oppressed person" can also cause this.

At any rate, im not an expert on the matter. Wizz, thanks for bearing with me, i know this can sound crazy even for someone like me. Geneve, since you say you are open-minded and would like to consider all possibilities, why don't you go see a thereapist anda spiritual warfare expert. My only worry about this advice is that it is so hard to find a true "expert" on the latter field. Too many so-called experts are just buffy-the-vampire-slayer fans or people who actually need medical attention or ultra-paranoid people. At any rate, it is good that you are handling this in a mature way and are not panicking. I have to warn you, though, you have to act soon. This is serious. Whether psychological or spiritual, you need to get some help. This could become worse.

“To God, there is no zero. I still exist.” Scott Carey, The Incredible Shrinking Man

Jul 24, 2003 14:26 # 14249

wizz *** replies...

Re: voices while in paralysis

The key term i used is demonic "oppression," not possession.

Sorry, the difference wasn't clear to me. Feel free to mentally replace the term in my post :-)

Whether psychological or spiritual, you need to get some help. This could become worse.

I agree.

'Repent, Harlequin!' said the Ticktockman. 'Get stuffed!' the Harlequin replied, sneering.

Mar 26, 2004 08:57 # 20836

Bruin22CA *** replies...

Re: Re: voices while in paralysis

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In the past two weeks I've had my own vivid "dreams." Both times were right before I awoke, and although I don't necessarily recall paralysis during them, I do believe that some of the other symptoms fit in with those listed under this disorder.

The first time something occured, I was awakening from a nap, and although I hadn't opened my eyes yet, it was between that time-period when you're just beginning to awake and had passed from some previous dream, I heard this harsh, nearly "demonic" voice state: 'I found you.' Subsequently, I felt three sharp blows to my head. However, these blows didn't "feel" physical. That is to say, there was something more metaphysical about them. They contained a surreal quality. Immediately afterwards, I awoke, disturbed by the event.

The second time something similar occured, nearly a week later. Again, I was awakening from a nap during the day. I was once more in that period between dispensing of your previous dreams and moving to open your eyes, that I suddenly felt as if I was being smothered. My body felt like it was being caged, or some how contained, confined, enclosed, and my mind struggled to free myself from the process (kidnapped is the most akin word to the experience I can think of). As I struggled, I heard one voice amidst whispers say "Oops." -- and I felt like I had been accidently dropped. Immediately, I escaped, and awoke.

As a graduate student in molecular biology and biochemistry, with a neuroscience background, I personally cannot ascribe to the idea that these were ghostly entities, that my dread was warrented during either experience, or that my "soul" was somehow trapped momentarily on another plane, open for attack or manipulation.

Rationale and cyncism inhibits my willingness to easily accept such concepts. However, surely, also as a scientist, I can be objective and open to other possibilities. But, I suspect that the halluciations described under the sleep paralysis condition are a far better explanation. Indeed, the last few weeks have been tiring for me, and I suspect my sheer exhaustion has played some role in the manifestation of these peculiar events.

Mar 27, 2004 02:48 # 20887

Articulate_AzN ** replies...

Re: Re: voices while in paralysis

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Well, Ive cant say that Ive ever heard voices, but the feeling of being smothered and trapped happens to me all the time. In korea it has a name, actually. Its explained physically that your body is still asleep, but your mind is awake trying to move the body, which is still deep in slumber, therefore your breathing, needing to be quicker due to wakening, feels short, and your body feels trapped and smothered because your brain is trying to move your body, and the body is resisting. im not exactly sure how true this is, but that is what I have heard about it. now, the voices kinda freak me out, but its never happened to me.

although your voices do scare me, Ive also had some strange evens occur during my dreams. When I started meditating and visualizing to calm my mind, I started having vivid dreams of just a normal day at school, or at church, or wherever I may need to be the next day. Some of it is just silly and not possible at all, but some parts occur the next day EXACTLY as I had dreamed them. Now, Im not sure if this had anything to do with my meditation or not, but it was quite scary. in fact, in English class one day, my teacher asked if she had told us a certain story, and everyone said that she had not, and I remembered vividly her telling us the story, and I even repeated it back to her. She said she must have told the story, and everyone else in the class just looked at me like I was crazy or had growth on my face or something.

anyway, I believe dreams are your connection to your subconcious, and I am not entirely unsure that people dont have supernatural powers in them somwhere. now, I know all the christians are reading this and screaming at me that the Bible says witchcraft is not right, but it never said it was not possible. I believe that God tells us not to do it because the human mind cannot handle the intensity of it. I mean, if God created us in his image, I believe he can do anything, right?

okay, im off subject now, but anyway. dreams just connect you with what you have deep in your brain, and who knows? maybe you have a strange being living in the shadowy crevaces of your brain. ;)

"Wishing on a star that's already burned out..."

Aug 25, 2003 16:39 # 15210

galady2003 * replies...

Re: Sleep Paralysis

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Hello, I'm new to this forum. I joined because I was doing a search on the subject of sleep paralysis and came across your posts. I have been experiencing this, too. It started sometime around the time that my daughter ran away last October. It only happens during the day, after I take our 3 sons to school and I go back to bed for a couple of hours. It's happened maybe 5 times and has really made me think twice about ever taking a nap while alone in this house again. This morning while I was asleep, I heard my oldest son talking to me. I remember opening my eyes and I heard his voice coming from the doorway, only he wasn't there. I realized that this could be a ghost or something taking on his voice, so I tried to get out of bed but I couldn't move. One time last year when this happened, I awoke to find him standing next to my bed, only he was a black shadowy figure and he said "Mama". I knew that it wasn't him, so I tried my best to get up and again I was pinned. I'm a Christian, so I spoke to it and said "In the name of Jesus, I am a Christian and you cannot harm me. You have no power here! Get out of my house!!" It was as if my mouth was paralyzed, too, so although I did speak, it was almost impossible and my words were coming out of my mouth like I was on very strong drugs or something. After I spoke to it, it went away and I fell into a DEEP sleep. I always do after this happens. Another time, I awoke to see my son again, along with my husband and one of our other boys coming into the room and again they were all black, but I knew it was supposed to be them. It scared the he** out of me. I tried to get out of bed and run outside, only I could not move, so again I spoke the same words to them and then they left. My oldest son is 16 and hangs around with well known devil worshippers at school. I'm embarrassed to tell this, but for the sake of being honest about what's going on here, I'm admitting it here. He wears all black, chains all over, has posters all on his walls of Mudvane, Slipknot, Rob Zombie, with fake blood all over them, etc. Most of them look like serial killers. I married a guy who was in a heavy metal band, and my favs when I was younger were AC/DC and Judas Priest, but this stuff puts them to shame, lol. He says he doesn't actually worship the devil, but that he did when he was younger, but that he likes the style of clothing and music. I have to wonder if what is coming to me in my sleep is something that is around him. After all, we did have a slight argument this morning about his wearing all black every single day. I know I'm not crazy. It's either supernatural or just harmless but scary dreams. It ONLY happens when I'm home alone, though, and never, ever at night. What do you think? This has not happened in many months and never once happened over the summer when the kids were out of school, then it all of a sudden happens this morning. Really wierd.


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