Reading zen's journal

Fighting over modem time.
That's the only thing happening. Actually, I'll do a quick check-in for mom. She's depressed, and doesn't want to talk to me, or anyone. It's like sh doesn't want to come out of her shell. She isn't working, and has no money for presents for the grrandkids. More to the point, she got in a argument with my younger sister, so now they're not speaking. And H-, my sister, is still mad that mom didn't at least call for her son's birthday.

All of that mess I wholly place on the back of H-'s boyfriend, Michael. He's a punk, and just a plain fucker. I'd gladly throw him down her stairs and not even think about it.

So I got into a slight argument with her the other day over using the car. She said I don't let her use the car except for 5 minutes then she has to bring it back. The thing is that I told her I need to get the video back by 10pm. Here's the thing: she leaves to go to church early, to be there by 6 pm. I say I need to return the video before 10 pm. That's 4 hours!! And if the stupid video didn't need to be back, I wouldn't care how long she was out toolin around. In fact, I'm GLAD when she leaves the house. Frankly, she has no life. Church is the only life she has, now that she's not talking to my sister. And in addition, now she' cast this pall over the house, like a wet dishrag.

I'd tell her that I love her, but she doesn't want to talk; certainly not me. So then she sits in front of her computer, on line (which means I can't do the auction stuff when I need to), playing slingo, or poppit, or pong, or pogo, or whatever the hell it is. For 9 hours straight! But when I need to use the phone line, it's like getting a government grant. At one point she was complaining that she doesn't get enough modem time, even though she knows I'm selling on it. I'm like, "but this is my job." A friend of schweeties used a phrase. Originally I didn't like it. But the more I hear it, the more fitting it is. He said "it's just pathetic." He's right. It's just pathetic.

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

An unnerved sidenote: what in the name of Bruce the Allmighty are "schweeties"?!? and HOW to speak that out???

yours, bG.

Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign for a diseased mind!

This post was edited by ginsterbusch on Dec 17, 2003.

I assume "schweetie" is actually "sweetie". not entirely sure how you would pronounce this, but i think making the"w" more a "v" sound helps to actually get the word out of you mouth.

-Mel ;)

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I think that, too - but why does she use it, anyway? It aint an english word, is it?

Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign for a diseased mind!

Just a pet name i think, i greet alot of my freinds with "sweetie" or "beautiful"...and quite often i pronounce the "s" as "sh"...i dont know why though.

also, pardon me if im mistaken, buti think Zen's male ;)

-Mel

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also, pardon me if im mistaken, buti think Zen's male ;)

thats propably caused by me not reading other persons NAO profiles - another thing might be that there's a feeling that zen is writing kind of woman-like, dont know ..

yours, bG.

Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign for a diseased mind!

and quite often i pronounce the "s" as "sh"...i dont know why though.

Probably just because it sounds schweet. :-)

"*sigh* Some men are really hard to manipulate!" - Orchid

Probably just because it sounds schweet. :-)

I'm not exactly sure why...but somehow that humour made me want to cringe. ;)

-Mel

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"schweeties"?!? and HOW to speak that out???

(shwa-eat-ees)

sch is shwa sounding. I have not seen the movie so I don't know in what context he is saying this word. I couldn't tell you what it means. Maybe he is talking about some girls or something. Thats all I can think of.

Maybe he is talking about some girls or something. Thats all I can think of.

Ummm, from what I've read, i think Zen is talking about his partner (Rich i think the name is??). as i said earlier, i think its just a pet name.

-Mel

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This has to one of the best conversations about me that I've never been a part of!! :)

Alright, from the top. "Schweetie" is the pet name for my partner. His name is Rich. I could say sweetie, but that's not how we say it. (Technically, the word should be ssshwwwweeeeeeeeeetteeeeeeeeeeee!!) It's pronounced however i feel at the moment.

Yes my partner is a guy. I'm a guy. (I'll take it that none of you read my posting over on Linux, when I was talking about "Fresh Meat." (There was no question about my orientation.)

BTW, don't think i put gender in my profile. Speaking of that, I thought MelMel was a guy until i started reading some of her posts. I thought it was funny once I knew!

This was interesting:

-another thing might be that there's a feeling that zen is writing kind of woman-like...

Elaborate, please.

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

This post was edited by zen on Dec 18, 2003.

Speaking of that, I thought MelMel was a guy until i started reading some of her posts. I thought it was funny once I knew

heh, i almost pissed myself when i read that...good lord, am i really that masculine? hmmm, now I'm worried!! do i really sound like a guy?? :S

I'll have to write lots of sappy posts about, ummm, rainbows and stuff. oh well, whether im masculine or feminine i still stand by what i said...Johnny Depp is hot. ;)

now for a feminine sign-off...got it,

Lots of hugs and kisses
-Liss

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No, actually it has nothing to do with writing style. I looked at MelMel; that's a guy's name right?

Well, imagine my chagrin.
I'm chagrinning from ear to ear now ;)

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

I looked at MelMel; that's a guy's name right?

umm, I've never heard of a guy called Mel...oh wait, i take that back, Mel Gibson, but thats the only one.

My name's actually Melissa, but that sounds so prissy, so everyone calls me Mel. but that nickname's always taken, so i decided to make mine MelMel.

Like sand through the hourglass, these our days of our lives.

-Mel ;)

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I'll have to write lots of sappy posts about, ummm, rainbows and stuff. oh well, whether im masculine or feminine i still stand by what i said...Johnny Depp is hot. ;)

apparently that's what I'm writing about these days...sappy poetry and parasols. That's what driven me to all those yucky posts about World politics.

I have a theory about poetry: It's actually the guys that like it. Chicks are like, "oh that's nice," but they don't care what it says. They're just happy the guy did something, anything, special for her. It's the guy who's really into what it says, not the chick

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

It's the guy who's really into what it says, not the chick

hmmm, im not sure about that. i critisize poetry all the time. for it's got to be meaningful other wise ill bag it.

Fro instance, there seems to be some obsession with teenage girls reading Sylvia Plath. Half her poetry is crap. have you read some of it? apparently she was churning out approx three poems a day...nowonder. but everyone praises it and says its wonderful just because she stuck her head in the oven.

Now some of it actually is quite good. but its so damn repetitive!

ok, im done ranting.

-Mel

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Well, I didn't say it was a good theory.

I haven't read much of Sylvia Plath. My co-posters at Lit Kicks all shunned and disowned me when I told them that.

It's like she personifies the Victorian era or something. They're repetative and dereivative because all she did was love poems. At least that's all i've seen.

(I think she just needed some good lovin, and she wouldn't have been looking for it in her writing.)

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

(I think she just needed some good lovin, and she wouldn't have been looking for it in her writing.)

myeh, im not entirely sure about this so i could be wrong..but wasn't her hubby the much celebrated poet Ted Hughs? Maybe it had something to do with her inferiority and need to compete, apparently that was why she churned out so many...a case of quantiy over quality. tisk tisk, that's never the answer!

-Mel

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This was interesting:
-another thing might be that there's a feeling that zen is writing kind of woman-like...
Elaborate, please.

what about this "passive and active part" in a homosexual relationship? maybe this also depends on the type of person you are - eg. I _wouldnt_ write sappy love poems (whatever "sappy" means) and stuff if i'm in love - they'd way more abstract and expressionistic (see there).

and all your talking about your BF sounds like some girl talking about her "man" (the one and only .. bla). ;)

cu, w0lf.

Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign for a diseased mind!

This post was edited by ginsterbusch on Dec 18, 2003.

Could you please translate (or at least paraphrase) Oxygenius' posting for the (_____) American (that's me) who can't read German.....

The active and passive voice
Hmmm. This is an interesting point. If provided with only these two choices, I'd say that I can write in both "tenses" equally as well. As I put in my profile: i'm a writer, and I like to write. I think the real point is that I can talk in at least a few different ways, that I've been told. But I think that I have a wide range of voices I can call on to suit the needs of the material.

I try to bring out, what I think is, the essence in the subject. This just makes me sensitive to other voices outside my personal own. I also write with a very fluid, loose, and personable style--usually. I think that might cause one to tend to think i'm a female. I think these are PERCEIVED as traditionally feminine qualities. (This is a guess, so don't get a lynch mob ready for me.)

As to my man
I think that anyone talking about his loved one (regardless of sex) is going to sound soft and mushy. However, there are plenty of guys afraid to show this side of themselves, so one is inclined to get a "tough" side to that guy. But women can also hide their true emotions. Example: My step mom works in manhatten in a predominently male-dominated business, finance. She has her "game face," her firm handshake, and before getting cancer was up in the penthouse suites smoking their cigars and drinking their brandy. She can definitely be as ruthless as any guy in that field--wouldn't have made senior partner in a Fortune 500 comp if she wasn't.

i'm probably rambling at this point, but these are some thought i'm working on...

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

I think Gingster Busch might be referring to the top/bottom or male/female characteristics that are mostly portrayed in movies, etc.

quote:
However, there are plenty of guys afraid to show this side of themselves, so one is inclined to get a "tough" side to that guy.

Lol....you said some very true words there...More females live in hope to hear the words, see the words, than ever do. It does give the males an advantage....it keeps us guessing and padding ye olde busts.

quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Lol....you said some very true words there...More females live in hope to hear the words, see the words, than ever do.

I laffeth back. That's funny. This doesn't help to dissuade anyone from thinking that I write "like a girl" :(

It does give the males an advantage

In the arena of paddling backsides, men rarely get an advantage (outside of acting like a caveman and just dragging the girl home.)

Oh, you were talking about padding your bras?? Is that it? Oops, you've definitely got us there.

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

Grins....retract the wit a bit. No attack in sight.

quote: This doesn't help to dissuade anyone from thinking that I write "like a girl" :(

You do not write "like a girl".
And at your age you don't write like a woman either.

quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

With my advance I should know better than to cater to the crowd. Well, done. You're a top lass. That was my thought too.

I thought that I came across fairly masculine. But then it begs the question: Is perhaps my writing not as masculine as I think? Is my gayness evident in my writing? In fact, I ask myself, can my gayness be seen from space?

Charmed:
Grins....retract the wit a bit. No attack in sight.

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

Bruce the Allmighty

Oh My God I'm sooooo stupid. I thought he was talking about the movie "Bruce the Almighty". Somebody slap me right across the face.

**runs away to hide his head in shame**

Re: Bruce Almighty
I was going to post something to the effect: Sigh, I don't think he's actually talking about the movie...But then i remembered the Busch-the-President comment, and thought to myself, he probably knows that already.

Imagine my embarrassment.

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second