Reading zen's journal

Dec 18, 2003 01:50 # 18090

zen *** replies...

Re: Oh you guys...

This has to one of the best conversations about me that I've never been a part of!! :)

Alright, from the top. "Schweetie" is the pet name for my partner. His name is Rich. I could say sweetie, but that's not how we say it. (Technically, the word should be ssshwwwweeeeeeeeeetteeeeeeeeeeee!!) It's pronounced however i feel at the moment.

Yes my partner is a guy. I'm a guy. (I'll take it that none of you read my posting over on Linux, when I was talking about "Fresh Meat." (There was no question about my orientation.)

BTW, don't think i put gender in my profile. Speaking of that, I thought MelMel was a guy until i started reading some of her posts. I thought it was funny once I knew!

This was interesting:

-another thing might be that there's a feeling that zen is writing kind of woman-like...

Elaborate, please.

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

This post was edited by zen on Dec 18, 2003.

Dec 18, 2003 02:22 # 18095

MelMel *** replies...

Re: Oh you guys...

Speaking of that, I thought MelMel was a guy until i started reading some of her posts. I thought it was funny once I knew

heh, i almost pissed myself when i read that...good lord, am i really that masculine? hmmm, now I'm worried!! do i really sound like a guy?? :S

I'll have to write lots of sappy posts about, ummm, rainbows and stuff. oh well, whether im masculine or feminine i still stand by what i said...Johnny Depp is hot. ;)

now for a feminine sign-off...got it,

Lots of hugs and kisses
-Liss

Look at me! I'm a prostitute robot from the future!

Dec 18, 2003 02:34 # 18098

zen *** replies...

Re: Oh you guys...

No, actually it has nothing to do with writing style. I looked at MelMel; that's a guy's name right?

Well, imagine my chagrin.
I'm chagrinning from ear to ear now ;)

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

Dec 18, 2003 02:39 # 18099

MelMel *** replies...

Re: Oh you guys...

I looked at MelMel; that's a guy's name right?

umm, I've never heard of a guy called Mel...oh wait, i take that back, Mel Gibson, but thats the only one.

My name's actually Melissa, but that sounds so prissy, so everyone calls me Mel. but that nickname's always taken, so i decided to make mine MelMel.

Like sand through the hourglass, these our days of our lives.

-Mel ;)

Look at me! I'm a prostitute robot from the future!

Dec 18, 2003 02:47 # 18100

zen *** replies...

Re: Oh you guys...

I'll have to write lots of sappy posts about, ummm, rainbows and stuff. oh well, whether im masculine or feminine i still stand by what i said...Johnny Depp is hot. ;)

apparently that's what I'm writing about these days...sappy poetry and parasols. That's what driven me to all those yucky posts about World politics.

I have a theory about poetry: It's actually the guys that like it. Chicks are like, "oh that's nice," but they don't care what it says. They're just happy the guy did something, anything, special for her. It's the guy who's really into what it says, not the chick

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

Dec 18, 2003 02:52 # 18101

MelMel *** rants...

Re: Oh you guys...

It's the guy who's really into what it says, not the chick

hmmm, im not sure about that. i critisize poetry all the time. for it's got to be meaningful other wise ill bag it.

Fro instance, there seems to be some obsession with teenage girls reading Sylvia Plath. Half her poetry is crap. have you read some of it? apparently she was churning out approx three poems a day...nowonder. but everyone praises it and says its wonderful just because she stuck her head in the oven.

Now some of it actually is quite good. but its so damn repetitive!

ok, im done ranting.

-Mel

Look at me! I'm a prostitute robot from the future!

Dec 18, 2003 03:04 # 18103

zen *** replies...

Re: Oh you guys...

Well, I didn't say it was a good theory.

I haven't read much of Sylvia Plath. My co-posters at Lit Kicks all shunned and disowned me when I told them that.

It's like she personifies the Victorian era or something. They're repetative and dereivative because all she did was love poems. At least that's all i've seen.

(I think she just needed some good lovin, and she wouldn't have been looking for it in her writing.)

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

Dec 18, 2003 03:11 # 18104

MelMel *** replies...

Re: Oh you guys...

(I think she just needed some good lovin, and she wouldn't have been looking for it in her writing.)

myeh, im not entirely sure about this so i could be wrong..but wasn't her hubby the much celebrated poet Ted Hughs? Maybe it had something to do with her inferiority and need to compete, apparently that was why she churned out so many...a case of quantiy over quality. tisk tisk, that's never the answer!

-Mel

Look at me! I'm a prostitute robot from the future!

Dec 18, 2003 09:39 # 18108

ginsterbusch *** replies...

Re: Oh you guys...

This was interesting:
-another thing might be that there's a feeling that zen is writing kind of woman-like...
Elaborate, please.

what about this "passive and active part" in a homosexual relationship? maybe this also depends on the type of person you are - eg. I _wouldnt_ write sappy love poems (whatever "sappy" means) and stuff if i'm in love - they'd way more abstract and expressionistic (see there).

and all your talking about your BF sounds like some girl talking about her "man" (the one and only .. bla). ;)

cu, w0lf.

beards are cool. every villain has one!

This post was edited by ginsterbusch on Dec 18, 2003.

Dec 18, 2003 23:47 # 18119

zen *** replies...

Re: Oh you guys...

Could you please translate (or at least paraphrase) Oxygenius' posting for the (_____) American (that's me) who can't read German.....

The active and passive voice
Hmmm. This is an interesting point. If provided with only these two choices, I'd say that I can write in both "tenses" equally as well. As I put in my profile: i'm a writer, and I like to write. I think the real point is that I can talk in at least a few different ways, that I've been told. But I think that I have a wide range of voices I can call on to suit the needs of the material.

I try to bring out, what I think is, the essence in the subject. This just makes me sensitive to other voices outside my personal own. I also write with a very fluid, loose, and personable style--usually. I think that might cause one to tend to think i'm a female. I think these are PERCEIVED as traditionally feminine qualities. (This is a guess, so don't get a lynch mob ready for me.)

As to my man
I think that anyone talking about his loved one (regardless of sex) is going to sound soft and mushy. However, there are plenty of guys afraid to show this side of themselves, so one is inclined to get a "tough" side to that guy. But women can also hide their true emotions. Example: My step mom works in manhatten in a predominently male-dominated business, finance. She has her "game face," her firm handshake, and before getting cancer was up in the penthouse suites smoking their cigars and drinking their brandy. She can definitely be as ruthless as any guy in that field--wouldn't have made senior partner in a Fortune 500 comp if she wasn't.

i'm probably rambling at this point, but these are some thought i'm working on...

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag


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