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Well lets see. This has got me royally pissed. Since the old World Trade Center has fallen down the brilliant people of America think we need one even taller, even bigger and even bolder than the first. Not only will this be a target for more terrorism but it will be a huge magnet for every islamic wacked out fundamentalist from New York City to Yemen. It will be a TARGET. It will be a Mecca for terrorism. It will be the holy grail. I'm sick and tired of this need to build bigger and taller buildings. What kind of a person is going to work in such a death trap? Especially after September 11, 2001. I am sick and tired of this mentality that we need to rebuild the WTC just to show the terrorists. Am I the only idiot in America that realizes that this will become a HUGE MAGNET for terrorism?

Sometimes my own country makes me wish I was never a citizen. Sometimes I just want to slap the Statue of Liberty and ask her what the fuck are your people thinking???

This post was edited by majic on Dec 22, 2003.

She's french, of course she is disgusted by them. If that torch was real she'd light them al aflame! I actually had no idea they were planning on doing this. Thank you, this gives me just another reason to despise the hairless monkeys.

She's french, of course she is disgusted by them. If that torch was real she'd light them al aflame! I actually had no idea they were planning on doing this. Thank you, this gives me just another reason to despise the hairless monkeys.

Haha... I about died laughing when I read this. Are you American or European? I can't tell from this post. Do you despise Americans? Or just some of the things we end up doing? Actually don't confuse me with the regular crowd. I despise alot of the things Americans do.

Actualy I have a double grudge against americans. I'm Sicilian/Sioux indian. I think you can come up with your own conclusions. ^_^

Building tombstones for all those people isn't going to make them live. Something larger won't work any better.

If I were allowed a vote, I'd vote to make it a grassy plot. The same as every other graveyard gets. It's the least amout of dignity, and consideration that those people deserve. I think that making yet one more commnercial building in that city desecrates their memory. And I don't think it would allow these spirits any rest.

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

I usually like Libeskind's work, but I don't quite agree with his treatment of this site though. All I can say is, I have seen the other entries, they are worse than his, if that is of any comfort to you.

I think the Princeton students did a sch project on this site too, just half a year back. And their proposals were like what zen suggested, keeping the site empty and leaving it raw, building only underground, as though retaining "the wound" as a reminder. I agree with that, cos I think although we can't bring the dead back, but we can accord them respect. The idea behind the students' work, I heard, is similar to Maya Lin's Vietnam Veterens War Memorial, the "gash in the ground" idea.

But perhaps that part of NYC is highly commercial (I've not been to NY, so I am not sure), therefore Libeskind can't escape from having a tower in his scheme.

You know how the scale of economy works. Everything else takes a backseat.

"Constantly talking isn't necessarily communicating." --Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

it will be a huge magnet for every islamic wacked out fundamentalist from New York City to Yemen. It will be a TARGET. It will be a Mecca for terrorism.

Majic--

Using the word Mecca in reference to terrorism is pretty offensive. Mecca is a holy place for all Muslims, most of whom bear no grudge against the US. I understand your anger about the commercialization of the WTC site, but you shouldn't use symbols representing terrorism and Islam together... the news media does plenty of that for all of us. And don't forget that the Oklahoma City federal building was destroyed by a Christian "wacked out fundamentalist," Timothy McVeigh. Wacked out terrorists come in all shapes and sizes.

No beef, just a pet peeve that I feel like I need to correct when I hear it.

No beef, just a pet peeve that I feel like I need to correct when I hear it.

I should have noted that it was sarcasm. Yes I know it was in poor taste to make those comparisons. But I made a poor attempt to note that it was sarcastic.

The lesson here is that language is a slippery thing indeed. When Majik used "Mecca" I know he was using it as a figure-of-speech, as I have in the past. The only difference is that his context was "terrorism" so it wasn't appropriate.

It goes to show how certain phrases creep into our daily usage, and we never think about it. I'm going to go on a tangent to prove a point. We'll call it word association with brand names <These are brand names that have come to be associated so closely to a particular product that that product is called by the brand name>, shall we commence:
Xerox
Kleenex
Tylanol(sp)
Coke/Pepsi
Apple
Webster's
Dairy Queen (soft serve ice cream)
Concorde
Camcorder (Sony brand handheld camera)
Walkman/Diskman (more Sony brand products)
RCA plugs
And the list goes on.

The point was that commercial values creep into our everyday vocabulary. There's probably many Americans who think that there NEEDS to be another tower/commercial building in that spot. Can't have a huge grassy space in the middle of Downtown Manhatten, can we?

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second