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So it's come to my attention in the past few months that I've something of a love for beers; lagers, pilsners, even the stoutest of ales. I absolutely love beer (which is a tragedy, considering it's illegal for my consumption in the States). All of that aside, I was just curious about the personal tastes of NAOis with regards to these delightful bottles, cans, and glasses of joy.
Personally, I've got a big spot in my heart for Guiness, though it's difficult to get in my section of America, regardless of age. Hopfbräu Dark ("schwartz" maybe?)and Heineken are also two personal favourites.
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I hardly ever drink beer, but when I do it's either Sonnenbräu (a local brand), Schützengarten Weizen (wheat beer), Erdinger (more or less well-known German brand), or the occasional black Guinness, altho nobody besides me understands how one could like the latter. I don't see what's wrong with it tho, I love Guinness!
In this spirit, to your health :-)
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Aug 13, 2004 16:49 # 25424
ginsterbusch *** (5) has all the information you need...
Hopfbräu Dark ("schwartz" maybe?)a
why do those poor english - esp. US american - speaking people always try to misuse words in German language? *shakes head*
So, to make it more clear to you:
Schwarzbier does only exist OUTSIDE Bavaria!
These are DIFFERENT types of beer - Schwarzbier is so-called "untergaaeriges Bier" whilst Dark beer aka "Dunkles" is a so-called "obergaeriges Bier". Effectically this means that:
a) Dark beer - German original name would be "Dunkles (Bier)" - is based on Bavarian beer tradition, using way more malt to brew it
b) Schwarzbeer - which also could translated as "Black beer" is based on Pils brewing tradition, which are entirely different from said Bavarian ones.
A good example for Schwarzbier is "Das Schwarze", bottled in those old-styled bottles - when I was living in Baden-Wurrtemberg, it was my favorite one.
And some good examples for Dark beer are Koenig Ludwig Dunkel and Altenmuenster Dunkel.
cu, w0lf.
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This post was edited by ginsterbusch on Aug 13, 2004.
Altenmuenster Dunkel
I had this, I believe, in Vienna, and got "dunkel" and "schwartz" confused in my mind (as well as the two brands). I apologize for my (repeated) butchering of the language, as well; I'm actually taking German as a class this coming year, so I promise it will soon be somewhat-less-painful.
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Ive been to dublin where guinness is made and it was only there that i liked guinness. Most of the time if find a cold pint of stella artois on a warm day is unbeatable. All other beers i just drink to get / becuase i am pissed. though after a week of constantly being drunk this is perhaps not my favourite subject right now ;)
I've got another question, and I pose this specifically to w0lf, though also to the group in general, because you're in Munich, but at some point in Munich, I was delighted to try something called (I think, and please don't kill me, because you know my vocabulary is EXTREMELY limited) Ruß'n, and I'm curious to know what it was. If it's any help, this was at some extremely traditional (pronounced stereotypical) German cafe near the area of the Schwedenplatz metro (U-rail) stop.
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This post was edited by Magnifico on Aug 21, 2004.
Ok, so the black beer I had was Eichbaum schwarzbier, the darks I had were Paulaner Münchner Dunkel and the Hopfbräu Dunkel. So I've got that cleared up (and I even spelled schwarz correctly :-p) Apparenlty Ruß'n is weizbier (wheat beer? I apologize if the spelling isn't right, but I've seen "weiz," "weiss," and "weiß") and lemonade, which is a bit disturbing, but undeniably delicious.
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Apparenlty Ruß'n is weizbier (wheat beer? I apologize if the spelling isn't right, but I've seen "weiz," "weiss," and "weiß") and lemonade, which is a bit disturbing, but undeniably delicious.
There's also the Neger, which is mixed wheat beer and cola. You never really know whether it's appropriate to order it, as the name (which translates into "negro" or "nigger") is somewhat of a minefield of political correctness.
Sometimes I think the best thing about having moved out of Munich is that I can order the same thing as "Colaweizen" in every other place in Germany.
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I, too, am a beer lover.
Personally, I really don't like Heineken. It's not much better than Budweiser (and bud is about as bad as it gets).
When I need something refreshing, nothing beats a nice cold Corona with a slice of lime. I was on my office's baseball team earlier this summer and we used to go out for drinks after every game (that was my favorite part). Corona was perfect then.
Guinness is good. I don't know why it has such a bad rap. I actually prefer the Guinness foam over that of your more standard beers. Mmm... beer moustache.
Stella Artois is on the top of my list. It's my standard beer when in bars.
Whenever I visit the LCBO store (liquor control board of Ontario), I always pick up a bottle of Hobgoblin Strong Dark Ale from the Wychwood brewery (the UK's largest brewer of organic ales). Although I love Hobgoblin, I've tried a couple of their other brews and was very disappointed.
The LCBO is a wonderful place. There are many supermarket-sized locations. Filled strictly with alcohol. A huge selection. Wonderful place.
American beer is the most horrible shit. Bud, Coors, etc... Canadian beer is not much better (despite the rumors). Molson Canadian, Labatt Blue, Wildcat... all crap.
But there's an exception: Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale. Good stuff from Nova Scotia.
Strongbow, while not really a beer, is still worth mentioning. Technically, it's a cider. Goes down easy. Kinda like potent apple juice with a kick. ;)
Anyways, I had better shut up now.
American Beers of Note: Fat Tire and Abita Turbodog.
As for Heineken, I don't think it's great, but it's not such a bad little beer. Beck's is better. How can you drink Corona, though? I guess it could be ok with the lime, but I've only had Corona once, and I hated it.
Every time I think about Guinness, I think about what I've got: a family friend left me a 24-pack of American beer (Stroh's, not great, not too bad to let waste) from Detroit that my parents are vaguely willing to let me partake of from time to time (it's all for me; her exact words were "These are for you. If your parents take any, remind them that they can buy some whenever they want"). Then I think about what I could have: Killian's Irish Red, Guinness, Beck's, Fat Tire, Budveis (well, probably not that; I don't think they get to sell in the U.S. because of Budweiser), Sol, Hofbräu, or any number of other beers if it weren't for the bass-ackwards alcohol laws of America written by conservative Christian cro-magnons (say that five times fast) who are deathly afraid of teenagers enjoying a glass of beer.
Anybody wanna buy this kid a one-way ticket to any average-sized or larger city in Europe? Please?
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who are deathly afraid of teenagers enjoying a glass of beer.
More like deathly afraid of the multitude of teenage dumbasses who drink not to enjoy the beer, but to be macho and get drunk and run over some poor woman's daughter... (see the lady who started MADD)
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If you start introducing beer as a normal drink to be enjoyed in moderation, it stops being such a big deal. Part of the reason kids in the States go nuts for alcohol is that they're held away from it for so long when they want to try it out. The only problem in the idea of mine is that kids would have to be educated sooner about the dangers of alcohol, and that's not happening as it is. Damned lazy parents.
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