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Jan 22, 2005 07:10 # 31739

ReallyCoolDude *** wants to know...

Rising Islamophobia in the US

94% | 2

In a recent study an alarming result has come forward. 44% of the Americans feel that some curtailment of civil liberties is necessary for Muslim Americans!

Naturally, there were differences between Republicans and Democrats, religious and non-religious people. Nearly 40% of Republicans favored federal tracking for Muslims as opposed to only 24% of Democrats and a mere 17% of independents. Curiously, the opinions expressed by highly religious respondent was almost the same as that of Republicans respondents.

Another interesting distinction is people who pay attention to television news vs. those who do not. People who get their news from television are much more likely to be scared and to favor restrictions in Muslim civil rights than to people who don't.

Is it just me, or do others too find profiling citizens as potential threats based on the fact that they are Muslim or have Middle Eastern heritage, completely outragious? If we have this poll here on NAO, I wonder what our American NAOiis have to say about this? And, I do wonder, where is this rising Islamophobia going to take USA in the future? Have people stopped caring about civil liberties anymore?

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Jan 22, 2005 07:59 # 31742

betty *** replies...

Re: Rising Islamophobia in the US

75% | 3

Is it just me, or do others too find profiling citizens as potential threats based on the fact that they are Muslim or have Middle Eastern heritage, completely outragious?

I think profiling citizens based on any heritage is outrageous, and very 1984. What I have noticed lately is that the U.S. has become more and more reflective of a 'Big Brother' led society and seems to be regressing to the cold war tactics of looking for communists (or terrorists) under every doormat.

I haven't seen much evidence of profiling in my home town because my town is extremely integrated with many different races and religions, but I have heard of it on the news, and through complaints like your own.

I try to get my news from NPR (national public radio), they seem to give pretty unbiased and more indepth coverage than television news on many issues. The television news channels are too soaked in commercialism and propoganda to be trustworthy. The sad fact is that television rules the lives of Americans. Just as you are what you eat, we believe what is fed to us through the television.

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Jan 24, 2005 03:02 # 31819

Anonymous replies...

Re: Rising Islamophobia in the US

?% | 1

I think profiling citizens based on any heritage is outrageous, and very 1984. What I have noticed lately is that the U.S. has become more and more reflective of a 'Big Brother' led society and seems to be regressing to the cold war tactics of looking for communists (or terrorists) under every doormat.

I would even go that far and state: this reminds me of some other 'empire' which has been destroyed around May 1945. *SCNR*

Obviously US Americans aint that sensitised than the average European (or German, in that case) citizen is. In European countries, WWII this a main topic of history lessons, which nobody can just leave out, as it looks like so with the course-based school system in the US.

This post was edited by Anonymous on Jan 24, 2005.

Jan 24, 2005 18:15 # 31851

betty *** replies...

Re: Rising Islamophobia in the US

?% | 1

Obviously US Americans aint that sensitised than the average European (or German, in that case) citizen is. In European countries, WWII this a main topic of history lessons, which nobody can just leave out, as it looks like so with the course-based school system in the US.

You are attacking the U.S. education system because I left out the Nazi regime?

I find it interesting that an offhand reference to a piece of literature so inflamed you that you need to berate an entire education system.

There were many different incidents of government control and racial profiling that I could have referred to, I just chose 1984 this time. DO NOT assume that the terrors of WWII are not still prevalent in the minds of United States citizens. Our country is heavily populated by people who were (and family memebers of) prisoners and escaped war-torn Europe, fought in WWII, and lost loved ones in WWII.

ON A SIDE NOTE: Do not forget that the U.S. is made up of people from all over the world who have been victimized by governments that should have been protecting them. People come here daily to escape countries where they have been persecuted for thier beliefs, the color of their skin, their political offiliations, etc.

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This post was edited by betty on Jan 24, 2005.

Jan 24, 2005 21:56 # 31872

Bunk *** replies...

Re: Rising Islamophobia in the US

96% | 3

44% of the Americans feel that some curtailment of civil liberties is necessary for Muslim Americans... Nearly 40% of Republicans favored federal tracking for Muslims as opposed to only 24% of Democrats and a mere 17% of independents

These are such unbelievable statistics that I can't help but question their accuracy. Do you think these are realistic numbers? I know the article says %3.6 M.F.E., but interviewing 715 people in a nation of 300 million? Can these numbers possibly hold true on a large scale?

If these are accurate statistics, you'll have to excuse my purile-untainted-Canadian-liberal-socialist self when I say WHAT THE FUCK???

Nearly half of all Americans think certain people's freedoms should be restricted because of their religion? How is that possible? What happened to "an equal chance for everyone", what happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

And forget Republicans, 1 out of 4 Democrats even favor federal tracking of Muslims because of the possibility of them comitting terrorist acts? All Muslims? That's unbelievable. That's like attaching a radio tag to every man's dick on the grounds that men are potential rapists.

And the worst part is the hypocrisy. The "Great American Cause" nowadays is bringing democracy and freedom to the middle east. Apparently that means exporting it from America.

*breathes*

Look, one thing I hate is reactionary politicising and back and forth mudslinging between the left and right wing. It seems like all a lot of people do during political discussion is throw around the same old jabs and facts taken out of context and then take turns calling the other a liar.

That's why I want to take these poll results further. Are they accurate? What does "curtailment of civil liberties" mean exactly? What is "federal tracking"?

If these are as clear cut as they appear, there is no justifying them.

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