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Feb 20, 2005 21:28 # 33245

The_Blue_Ghost ** has an idea...

TIME TRAVEL: Matter and Antimatter

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My Theory:

Within our universe, there is matter and antimatter. Matter has a negative gravitation (negative acceleration) effect on the space-time continuum (pulls towards). Antimatter has a positive gravitational (positive acceleration) effect on the space-time continuum (pushes away).

So if matter propels time forward, does antimatter propel time backwards.

Spectrum:

Positive Mass/Gravity = Positive Time
Zero Mass/Gravity = Zero Time
Negative Mass/Gravity = Negative Time

As the theory of relativity has been proven with atomic clock sync experiments; if you accelerate from the Earth, time begins to deccelerate (eventually to zero time?).

What if?

If you accelerate towards a large quantity of antimatter, would time reverse?

And if you were exactly inbetween a quantity of matter and a quantity of antimatter (or at a zero gravity point), you would be at the zero point, so time would literally stand still?

Another thought:

If you were somehow able to harness wormhole technology, going into a blackhole and out a whitehole would send you into the future, because a blackhole is comprised of extremely dense matter that theoretically could tear a hole in the space-time continuum causing a wormhole effect. So, if a blackhole is high mass, into the future, then a whitehole is the opposite and is high antimass, and into the past?

So if you took a ship, found/created a whitehole, and somehow traveled into it (granted you survived the trip and the antimatter pushing your ship back) you could theoretically go out a blackhole (physically impossible, Event Horizon, extreme gravity, etc) and be in the past.

Chew on it, comments, ideas, smart remarks, etc. All Welcome.

To each his own...

Feb 21, 2005 01:54 # 33257

eljefe *** replies...

Re: TIME TRAVEL: Matter and Antimatter

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I figure for the benifit of the audience I'll paraphrase my replies in our discussion earlier today.

Anti-matter in your definition would have to have a negative mass inorder to make gravity negative. Unfortunately for this theory, Antimatter are merely particles whos addative properties (ie charge) are reversed, however mass is the same. So for example the anti-proton would hold a positive charge at 9e-31 kg. (thanks to: Wikipedia).

And unfortunately for your ship, the collision of matter with antimatter creates pure energy, essentially turning a ship into a pretty little fireworks display.

So basically the concept of antimatter (which I admit I misconstrued also) is not the absence of matter, but merely matter with properties reversed.

If you were somehow able to harness wormhole technology, going into a blackhole and out a whitehole would send you into the future, because a blackhole is comprised of extremely dense matter that theoretically could tear a hole in the space-time continuum causing a wormhole effect. So, if a blackhole is high mass, into the future, then a whitehole is the opposite and is high antimass, and into the past?

I do not believe this would work. Think of the wormhole as a highway. Taking the highway will get you from point A to point B much quicker than taking the side roads becasue speeds allowed are much faster. The same idea works entering the wormhole, only speeds are increased because time is decreased (think: velocity is distance/time. decrease time and velocity increases). However coming back in the other direction on the highway will return you from point B to point A, however you will be returning at time B, not at time A. This of course all implies that Swartzchild's wormholes are 2 way, which I havn't looked into.

Fond memories

Feb 21, 2005 03:35 # 33261

The_Blue_Ghost ** replies...

My Bad, not Antimatter, but Exotic Matter

Yeah, i think the name of the particle i was describing is not antimatter, it's called Exotic Matter or Exotic Mass. It is essentially the inverse of matter. it pushes instead of pulling, etc.

As for the wormhole thing...yes, if it is two ways, than youd go forward in time no matter which way you go. But like you mentioned, it may not be 2 ways, if that's the case, what if you force it to be? (with a huge amount of energy of course). Could going the "wrong way on a one way street" cause a buckling?

Another thing, if the blackhole is in the present at point A, and the whitehole is in the future at point B, if you went from B to A, you would essentially be going back into the past.

Keep it rolling :-p

To each his own...

Feb 21, 2005 14:29 # 33285

mclaincausey *** replies...

Re: TIME TRAVEL: Matter and Antimatter

So basically the concept of antimatter (which I admit I misconstrued also) is not the absence of matter, but merely matter with properties reversed.

If existence in a certain dimension is a property, then why wouldn't that be reversed as well?

Ewige Blumenkraft!

Feb 21, 2005 23:00 # 33310

eljefe *** replies...

Re: TIME TRAVEL: Matter and Antimatter

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If existence in a certain dimension is a property, then why wouldn't that be reversed as well?

I don't think existance counts as a property, probably moreso the existance of all properties (or key properties) working in concert.

Fond memories

Feb 21, 2005 23:11 # 33311

mclaincausey *** replies...

Re: TIME TRAVEL: Matter and Antimatter

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I think existence in our dimension could be construed as a property (mass), but I looked at that Wikipedia article and it's very specific about which properties are inverse. Interesting topic, but one I know very little about.

Ewige Blumenkraft!

Feb 21, 2005 23:14 # 33312

eljefe *** replies...

Re: TIME TRAVEL: Matter and Antimatter

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Interesting topic, but one I know very little about.

Same here, which is why I'm going to hang around wikipedia for a while ;)

Fond memories

Feb 23, 2005 01:50 # 33352

The_Blue_Ghost ** replies...

Re: TIME TRAVEL: Matter and Antimatter

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Well, i just find it hard to negate the possibility of something just because someone else it doesnt exist. I mean, the scientific method and mathematical calculations have proven and disproven so much of the "impossible scifi" of the years past.

i mean, 200 years ago, it was said man would never fly. look at us now. or when they said that the earth was the center of the universe or it was flat.

So why cant there be "Negative Mass"?

I mean, mathematics are the "language" of the universe. And if the universe is governed by mathematics, it must abide by the rules of math.

Not to sound clichish,

but where there is a 1, there is always a -1.

the equation must be balanced.

keep the comments coming...

To each his own...

Feb 23, 2005 02:19 # 33355

eljefe *** replies...

Re: TIME TRAVEL: Matter and Antimatter

Like I told you over AIM (again a reprint for community's sake), there is a mathematical problem that I looked at once in Algerbra II (or was it Pre-Cal) that was solveable in mathematics, but it was proven to be impossible in the real physical world.

Tomorrow, or at the latest Thursday I should be able to ask her and find out (my old teacher that is...).

Fond memories

Feb 23, 2005 04:30 # 33377

The_Blue_Ghost ** replies...

Haha

Haha.

ok man, but im just saying a single problem is not gonna dismiss the idea of the possibility of "Negative Mass" aka Exotic Mass.

I mean, scientists in New Zealand are working on it right now.

To each his own...


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