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Bush, don't stand behind Prime Minister Blair during his speech with that look on your face. That laughable, embarassing military stance along with that look of disgust, shock, and anger.

No one is buying this bull shit anymore.

You are responsible for the deaths of those people today in London (Blair aswell: you shouldn't continue to participate in Bush's war). You are responsible for the attacks in Spain. You are responsible for the thousands of solidiers deaths in Iraq. You are responsible for 911.

I don't think anyone can stand to see this horrific display of betrayal. I am not an American citizen, but I think I can speak for most of them when I say: Bush, we are not stupid, we can see through this charade of lies and deception. We know that what you are doing is not benefiting anyone but yourself and your powertrip. You are an evil fraud.

You are killing thousands of innocent people with your pure ignorance. And hey, look! You haven't even found Osama yet. Infact, you have barely even started looking.

Your speech a few weeks ago was a fraud. Your sentences are polluted with lies and it is impossible to ignore them. You said that the invasion of Iraq was about 911....... What a pathetic joke. Oil anyone (as if that is old news)?

Your selling out the lives of the people that died on 911 for greed and your pinning your evil ways on Saddam (not to say Saddam wasn't evil himself, but common, the truth always comes out in the wash). Saddam should of never became the #1 target on your list over Osama if you truely cared about fighting terror.

Well I guess it is too late to pull out now, your up to your eyebrows in shit already. And guaranteed, more people will die senseless deaths because of you.

Oh, and raise your terror alert to "orange". You wouldn't of had to input a "terror alert system" if you wouldn't of pissed off so many people in the first place. And now you think your protecting people?

Maybe, just MAYBE you would have less enemies if you stopped making them. *gasp* Did you ever think of that?

Of all the things that I have lost in my life, it's my mind that I miss the most.

This post was edited by NiQuE on Jul 07, 2005.

Did you ever think of that?

Probably not. I'm putting my money on "see, the terrorists are still here, we must double our efforts by waging more wars, creating an even more incredible deficit and doing away with whatever is left of your civil rights once and for all. Everybody who disagrees is a traitor (or worse, a leftist liberal Democrat)."

In other news, Bush fell off his bike again (after he crashed into a cop). Sometimes I wonder how it must feel to be governed by a president who is too stupid to ride a bike or pronounce his own name right... but then again, I'm so glad I don't know.

"*sigh* Some men are really hard to manipulate!" - Orchid

This post was edited by null on Jul 07, 2005.

Before I start, let me mention that I am an American Citizen and am very proud to be able to say that. The post I just read does not sit well with me, but I will try to remain civil in what I say. If I do not, then I encourage those who feel it necessary to rate the post as spam. The reason is simple. I will let most things go, but the above post took things too far.

You are responsible for the deaths of those people today in London (Blair as well: you shouldn't continue to participate in Bush's war).

The responsibility of the deaths in London today fall on the shoulders of the terrorist organization who carried it out and on the shoulders of those who further their cause, directly or indirectly. Bush, Blair and no other Coalition member is responsible for this. Blaming them is just the easy way to not make the criminals responsible for what they did.

You are responsible for the attacks in Spain.

This is most definitely the same as above. The responsibility of these attacks is on the shoulders of people who have perverted a wonderful belief system to their own murderous means. Why don't you quit blaming Bush for protecting his own people and look at the ones who are carrying out these heinous acts.

You are responsible for the thousands of solidiers deaths in Iraq.

This is only true in-so-much as Bush is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces.

You are responsible for 9/11.

Ok, this is not something I can sit idly by and watch happen. Blaming Bush for 9/11 is like blaming the jews for the Holocaust. It makes absolutely no fucking sense. What happened on September 11th was a terrible act of inhumanity by groups that continue to survive because of people like you who always want to blame someone else but the real person responsible. I wish there were a way for me to get you to realize this, but there isn't. The only way you will understand is when it lands on your doorstep. Maybe if that happens you will realize just what this is about.

This is only true in-so-much as Bush is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces.

In addition, it is safer to be in Iraq than to be in Washington DC.

Blaming Bush for 9/11 is like blaming the jews for the Holocaust.

Actually, there have been reports that the terrorist attack was planned over a few years - before Bush entered office.

It's closer to blaming the Jews in both Federal German Republic (a.k.a West Germany, now known as Germany) and German Democratic Republic (a.k.a East Germany) for getting the two countries to start the holocaust. Not only does the wrong group get blamed, but they get blamed for an atrocity because they made the antgonists after-the-fact.

Besides, Iraq was already on semi-hostile terms against the US anyway, especially since George H. W. Bush allowed Saddam Hussain to remain in power.

Actually, there have been reports that the terrorist attack was planned over a few years - before Bush entered office.

Oh, I just love this Rice testimony.

"But I don't remember the Al Quaeda cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about."
"I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?"
"I believe the title [of the August 6 2001 PDB] was, Bin Laden determined to attack inside the United States."

You just can't tell me they shouldn't have seen it coming.

"*sigh* Some men are really hard to manipulate!" - Orchid

The responsibility of the deaths in London today fall on the shoulders of the terrorist organization who carried it out and on the shoulders of those who further their cause, directly or indirectly.

I would say that Bush furthers their cause, so therefore it rests on his shoulders also. Which was what my post was entirely about.

I stick by my post. I consider your reply to be spam just as much as you consider mine to be. Thanks for the reply.

Of all the things that I have lost in my life, it's my mind that I miss the most.

How is it that Bush furthers their cause, by not giving in to their demands and instead standing up to fight? Are you saying we should just lie down and let them take over, becasue that is the only impression I gather by saying that Bush furthers their cause.

I consider your reply to be spam just as much as you consider mine to be.

I don't consider your post spam, spam is a term I generally reserve for posts that are either a) completely nonsensical with no community value, or b) posts that the writer claims as their own when they have in fact simply plagiarized it.

I rated your pst as nice, becasue even though I considered your points to be less than accurate, I felt that your presentation thereof was decent.

Are you saying we should just lie down and let them take over, becasue that is the only impression I gather by saying that Bush furthers their cause.

Absolutely not. In sort: I just think that Bush could of went about things a lot differently.

Thanks for the clarifying "spam" for me also.

No hard feelings. At no point did I want anyone to get the impression that I sided with the terrorists.

And now I am finished with this! :)

Of all the things that I have lost in my life, it's my mind that I miss the most.

In sort: I just think that Bush could of went about things a lot differently.

There is probably some truth to thsi statement, but I feel that Bush did what most people would do in such a case.

At no point did I want anyone to get the impression that I sided with the terrorists.

I do apologize for the fact that I implied this in my initial reply in this topic. It was not anything personal, it is just that 9/11 is a day which really changed my life and that I feel very strongly about. When I hear people trying to (or it appears such way to me) say that this terrible event was somehow deserved, it really makes me angry. I have never been to New York or even known anyone there , but to me it was still a day when the path of action was clear, and that path was to find those responsible and let them suffer the fate of the ones they attacked that day.

Just to put the above in perspective, I am usually pacifistic in my approach to conflict and in most cases (aside from crimes against children) am opposed to capital punishment.

I have enjoyed reading your replies an dseeing your opinion. And while I do not and probably never will agree with you, I most definitely believe you should be allowed to say what you are saying.

This gets even better as time goes by. This shit is starting to stink right up to high heaven. I mean come on somebody do the math and tell me the odds of this being a coincedence. Please.

TUT

London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack
Culpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 wargames

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet | July 9 2005

A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.etc...............

The transcript is as follows.

POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.etc.......

This is precisely what happened on the morning of 9/11/2001. The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning.

It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed.

The large numbers of 'blips' on NORAD screens that displayed both real and 'drill' hijacked planes explain why confused press reports emerged hours after the attack stating that up to eight planes had been hijacked.etc.........

n any crime you look at history and motive, The British government has been caught in multiple examples of carrying out bombings in London which were then blamed on the IRA. They even had one of their own MI5 agents wihin the Omagh bomb squad. Click here for an archive of this evidence. etc.....

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2...ngexercises.htm

http://truthseekers.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=483&hl=

I think I might move to switzerland, it's the next best candidate right now. But I guess, who knows eh?

I should be ashamed of myself.

I just finished reading this thread...and two words come to mind...hot bed.

In all of this has anyone considered the effect of all of this?
IF you can keep people in disagreement, how can they ever be united?
I have my own opinion about the currant politcs in the white house, and I'm keeping them to myself.

For me the bottom line in everything that has happened in the last 25 years or so is the question what has it done to the people in the country, let alone the world.
Has it brought us closer together, or made us more of a house that's falling apart?
If when you look at the whole of things and see that it's the latter, it makes you wonder about stuff....

It only looks that way because your standing on your head.