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I should be ashamed of myself.

I have many guy friends who admitt to thiking it is absolutly repulsive to see two gay men together. Yet these same friends love it when two girls perform sexual favors for eachother. Is that not homosexuality?? I think if someone is going to be against one gender being homosexual, they should be against the other as well. Im not accusing anyone here of doing that, i was just throwing that out there.

~Ashley~

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I should be ashamed of myself.

It simply is not normal. When sex becomes nothing but a pleasure boat it has lost it's genetic purpose. And you know what, if it is genetic, they are just as impaired as those mentally handicapped.

You're right, and 99.9% of people would agree with you. But, human beings are more than baby-making machines (most of us, anyway) :-D. There is room for genetic error, considering there are 6 billion of us to help out with the ongoing of the species in case a fraction of the population is sexually attracted to the same sex.

When sex becomes nothing but a pleasure boat it has lost it's genetic purpose.

So what you're saying is that when I and my heterosexual female honeybunny have normal (vaginal) intercourse, it's just as

sinful

and

perverse

because she takes the pill and so we can't fulfill our destiny of producing offspring?

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Here are agreeably straight men. they want to see two women (or more) together. They want to see lesbians, not homosexuals. By calling it something different, you can have your cake and eat it too.

But I agree with what you're saying. The two are identical.

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

Give me one reason why it's RIGHT.

I don't have to give you a reason. Because I don't feel like justifying my bisexuality to you or anyone else. Conversely, I don't have to like your opinion, but it is yours. I will, however, eventually explain why I think Gay Marriage is a good idea... which, I think, was the original purpose of this post.

What I think I have a problem with now is the vitriol, the vehemence with which you write of an entire segment of the population that you apparently know nothing about. I think previously, you and I have had discussions about how cruel I could be with my words...so, then not only do you know that I care about you alot not to light into you and rip you a new asshole <pun intended>, the way I feel that you have done to mine with your opinionated diatribe, but I also have tried to take your previous suggestions to heart. Please try to take mine to heart as well.

Stating your opinion is one thing. But adding into it speculative assumptions about the nature of reality -and assuming that Gay Marriage is one of the things that has slowly deteriorated the world's morals and values IS speculative at best-; and calling homosexuals and bisexuals 'sinners' is, if I am following the rigid, dogmatic, Fundamentalist Christian attitude that you seem to be taking, correctly...is really not your place... but then, me telling you it isn't your place, isn't my place.

You see the paradox? You see my dilemma? I don't know how to deal with your hate except through moderate self-defense, and wry humor. I neither want to be a hypocrite, nor do I want you to be a hypocrite, nor do I want to preach to you, or tell you how to live your life. I am trying very hard not to. No, don't give me a pat on the back...cause I'm not succeeding very well either. It's very hard in the face of so much causticity from you. So I would appreciate it if you would take some of the vitriol out of your opinions. Of course, you don't have to, cause lord knows I've dished out enough bitterness myself recently to piss off any and all financiers, financial counselors, and the like...but my point is: If I had realized that I had inadvertently offended someone I care about very much, I would attempt to try to tone down my tone, without simultaneously retracting my opinion.

The only way I can deal with this kind of uninformed opinion, is to point out that you might want to get to know some gays and bisexuals a little better; and find out how much love a same-sex couple can give to their children. Marriage and children being beside the point, at this point.

And just so you don't feel driven to attack me because I seem to be taking the moral high-ground, as you, I might add, have done...let me just inject a little more humor.. which is what null and I originally tried to do. Neither null nor I were oblivous to the sincerity of your post. I think we both knew damn well you were serious, and were warning you that you might receive some heave artillery in your direction if you continued in that vein of thinking, and conveying your thoughts. Apparently you want this 'heavy artillery', as, instead of just simply stating that you had not meant to be funny, you proceeded to insult gays and bisexuals further.

Man, all I can say is, I respect your opinion, though it is not my own; but just because you say it is so, don't make it so...

Excuse me while I go have anal sex, drink a mimosa, and lip sync to Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" simultaneously. I hope that doesn't bother you, since you seem to think that the anal orifice is not for fucking; but if it does, at least try to laugh. Picture how awkward it is to manuever oneself, and the preparation that goes into having a decent interlude of such. Picture the wildly erotic orgasms that anal sex can give, beyond your wildest dreams, and how mind-meldingly wonderful they can be. :-)

I have to stop here for a minute, and point out how if we are using pure logic, that saying that the anal orifice wasn't meant for sex, only for shitting; sounds a lot like saying: the pussy wasn't meant for pleasure, only plopping out babies. Man, try to laugh please. And just think.

I am making a concerted attempt at being funny, when I feel attacked by you inadervently, because of my proclivities. And I very much feel the need to stand up for those who aren't currently standing up for themselves, in the face of intolerance and misunderstanding. I don't judge you because of your history of crimes against the system...please try not to judge me for my currently legal activities. I love people regardless of race, creed, ethnicity, or sexual orientation. I have a problem with rapists and...and murderers, currently, but hey; I am willing to listen. People have different value systems, and right now, I may not agree with yours, nor do I think I ever will, but I still love you, dammit. Dude.

And for the record, I support Gay Marriage, for several reasons: the necessity of having a commitment to another person that you pledge your heart to, the ability to have visitation rights in the hospital without having to resort to such things as Durable Power of Attorney when someone is ill and hospitalized, and the ability to have the same tax breaks married couples do, when you, in fact, are behaving like a married couple...i.e., sharing expenses, responsibilities, goals, etc. It just makes sense to me.

But then, that's just me. I guess, it remains to be seen how the majority rules in our country.

Oh, and marriage, let's be honest, was originally a way to unite kingdoms for financial benefit, to amass more land, and to amass more cattle or beasts of burden. Which brings the cows back into the picture. How they got there... but in the same spirit I would like to add that I have a 'gay cow'...he's from that series of "Cows on Parade" - with pink hair and a mermaid costume. I think he is very cute! But he looks lonely...

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Jul 23, 2005.

Excuse me while I go have anal sex, drink a mimosa, and lip sync to Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" simultaneously.

Hahaha! Quite an imagination :-D

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Actually... only the portion about "anal sex" was mine. A little birdy on the pager was agreeing with the objective of conveying how gays just wanna have fun, and said something to the effect that maybe people who don't understand them don't realize that their agenda really only includes:

10:30 AM "Mimosas and brunch"
4:00 PM Rehearse "I Will Survive" for karaoke night at 'The Pumping Station'

not an exact quote, the way I wrote it, but nonetheless, borrowed anyway. I added it, after having written the original post. Partial credit for the active imagination should be given to ...a little birdy. However, the idea of simultaneously trying to do all three at once was mine.

I can just see it now.... ~~~~~drifts off dreamily~~~~~

Dialogue: "Slow down! Your making my martini glass jiggle...Oh, oh, oh, wait, that hurts a little... back off just a little bit... *breaks into song* 'At first I was afraid, I was petrifiiiied....!'"

*stops to choke on ginger snaps*

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Jul 23, 2005.