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Marriage, as I said before, was designed to bind two people a MAN and a WOMAN

Not anymore its not...;)

It was nice having this discussion with you all. Aynjell, I appreciate your apology and hope that someday you might consider the fact that homosexual couples can raise "normal" children. Do you know any homosexual couples with children? Many homosexual couples realize that it is important to include both sexes in the raising of a child, and I do agree with this.

Me on the other hand, still take advantage of the fact that I can't have biological children with my partner (nor do I want to adopt). It would hurt way too much, I could potentially loose my figure, and I am way too greedy... :P

I was born a lesbian. I gave the "straight" life a valliant effort; however, it just didn't work for me. I could have chosen to live that life, but I wouldn't be happy. Why would I want to jeopardize my happiness just so that I can be "accepted" by a certain group of people?

I don't need you to feel sorry for me, Aynjell, Im very content with my "choice" of lifestyle, and won't change for any one. :)

Take care :)

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I should be ashamed of myself.

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I should be ashamed of myself.

This post was edited by Aynjell on Jul 25, 2005.

I like the way Chris Rock says it: "In the land of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire..." (and the no-fault divorce--let's not forget Las Vegas' Chapel Alley,) what degrades marriage?

Personally, I find it a straw man, when put against the backdrop of reality, the polemic that fags somehow are able to degrade marriage any further than it is already.

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

I find it a straw man, when put against the backdrop of reality, the polemic that fags somehow are able to degrade marriage any further than it is already.

*nods* If the heterosexuals can't keep families together, how can they tell the homosexuals what do to?

Please contiune to vote AND post.

I'm all for giving the same privilages to same-sex partners that "normal" married couples have. However, this will ultimatly degrade the value of marrige to something that's either insignificant or a liability.

I don't understand that statement. I've never understood that little bit of "folk wisdom"--perhaps you could explaing wghy fags, and fags alone, will "degrade" marriage?

Ah, but you say 'degarade the VALUE of marriage'; that must mean that its value is already at question.

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

I don't have anything against homosexuals besides that I don't want to see them together. But to be honest: I also don't wanna see heterosexuals grabbing each other on the street, so...
But I think I couldn't live in a world where homosexuals can marry or even adopt a child and start a family. I don't know why I am against it. Maybe it's because I grew up in a world that didn't know homosexuality till my teenage years and because I'm still young or because I'm not tolerant. I'm sure I would feel attacked by a law that lets those people marry. And while I could probably accept homo-marriages, I could never in the world accept homo-families. It's just not right in my mind. Maybe in 50 years it's okay, but now it is not.
On the other hand I understand that homosexual people also want to found a family. And I would cry and die if someone would hinder me founding a family. So, it's difficult. Maybe it's the romantic image of a family with husband and wife I carry with me sinth my birth day, so... Does that make sense? I don't wanna sound like a conservative, high-necked catholic girl but I think homos should respect that world isn't ready (yet).

"Sie wollen nichts anderes. Sie wollen kämpfen! Sie sind Soldaten! Fucking Wahnsinnige!" - Noel G.

Maybe it's the romantic image of a family with husband and wife I carry with me sinth my birth day, so... Does that make sense? I don't wanna sound like a conservative, high-necked catholic girl but I think homos should respect that world isn't ready (yet).

No one can change the way they were raised or the images that were put into our heads... So yes, it does make sense that you see these romantic images of a husband and wife. However, you are a conservative, high-neck catholic girl if you choose to use negative words like homo, fag, or lesbo. You are also a conservative, high-neck catholic girl if you choose not to accept that the world is, infact, changing and that the only people who aren't ready for it are the people that are scared of it.

Also, studies have shown that people who are extreme homophobics are actually closet homosexuals who don't understand how to come to terms with their sexuality.

I'm not homophobic. I mean I talk to them like to other people, too. And sorry for using the word homo, I didn't think it's got a negative image. I just thought it's shorter to write.

Anyway: Sure, the world is changing, but slowly. I mean, in 1971 women in Switzerland were finally allowed to vote. That's not so far behind us. And there are still countries with laws that are beyond imagination, so... Maybe it depends from which point you see it.

"Sie wollen nichts anderes. Sie wollen kämpfen! Sie sind Soldaten! Fucking Wahnsinnige!" - Noel G.