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As far as I am concerned, stage 1 is deprecated. :-P

If the toolchain has problems as you've said you've heard, it's sure not making itself known. I've done a stage 1 three times and had absolutely no problems. I've built tons of software on all three systems.

Perhaps it's not just errors, but even so much as speed loss. But who knows, end result is so similar it's the same, and stage 1 on 3 is so much easier and it wastes less time.

I should be ashamed of myself.

This post was edited by Aynjell on Jul 20, 2005.

Everything ends with g(entoo)

"Life is a queue. You come in, hang around for a bit, get some service, then depart."

Should it end with Ubuntu? How's about arch? Hehe...

Sorry, gentoo is popular for a reason. It works. It has a community behind it. It is developing...

And to prove yoshi wrong... How about them yankees?

I should be ashamed of myself.

Ubuntu has quite a large follow these days, seems to me that it will get as large as Gentoo. I still think Ubuntu has a few things to work on before they are really popular but I think it's good that we have Ubuntu around.

For instance one problem I found and I cannot figure out why is after compiling a custom kernel I kept getting kernel panics after reboot. I mean I've built every kind of kernel since 2.0.28 back in early 98. I tried for a number of hours to fix a custom kernel on my friends laptop and could never get it to boot. I dunno what that was all about but I've never had any problems on any other distro. Maybe Ubuntu is looking for some weird type of shit in the kernel that I was forgetting to add in. Dunno. I should give it another go to see if I can fix whatever the hell it was that was causing it.

I'm sure they have some forums you can ask on. I mean, gentoo is easy to make kernel's for. Don't understand why it is hard on a ubuntu system.

I should be ashamed of myself.

Were you using vanilla sources or a kernel source package from ubuntu? If the former, try the latter. The kernel probably has a patchset of some sort applied to it. Gentoo does the same thing.

"Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think."

The kernel probably has a patchset of some sort applied to it. Gentoo does the same thing.

Yeah it most likely does have some patchsets however a vanilla kernel should work. I've done it a million times on a bazillion other distros and it's worked. Keep in mind that when I tried it on my friends Ubuntu it was running inside VMware. Maybe this was the problem but then again I've compiled kernels on distro's running in VMware and it's worked as well. So I dunno. I think my friend ended up deleting it anyway. He's not really into linux.

Yeah it most likely does have some patchsets however a vanilla kernel should work. I've done it a million times on a bazillion other distros and it's worked.

I find that surprising actually. On Fedora/SuSe when I was a noob I tried compiling vanilla kernels and could never get them working properly. Gentoo was the first time I tried and suceeded and I figured it must be because it applies its patches to the sources for you. I might have been leaving important stuff out of my kernel before because I was a n00b though =)

Next version of ubuntu looks to impress. Hopefully Xorg 6.9 will be out by then (much faster transparency niceness), Gnome 2.12 (defaults to Clearlooks now so looks much better out of the box), and the kernel now has inotify support builtin for 2.6.13 (for beagle). Could be excellent =)

"Nurture your mind with great thoughts, for you will never go any higher than you think."