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Aug 31, 2005 23:40 # 38505
harold_maude *** (8) posts about...
This afternoon as I was out and about I saw it. The numbers, 2.89.
It's not done, and what happens next is pretty sure.
The cost of food will go up due to the cost of gas so that the trucks that trasport it will still be able to do so.
The businesses that rely on people being able to afford to drive there will suffer.
And one by one, the dominos have begun to fall.
The space between the rich and the poor grows wider.
I heard from one of the neighbors this morning that the gas station up the way had 12 drive offs.
It has begun. Unless there is a repealing of the gas tax or a ceiling put on how high the price can go, they've done it in Hawaii, we are headed for a fincial crash.
Without those two things, there is no time to adjust, refigure things, and go on.
Next will be the people who are barely making enough to take care of the bills and buy food. They will either have to take a second or third job to make ends meet, (one of the jobs will be just to pay for gas to get to all three) or they will have to quit their jobs, and subsequently face being homeless...
There are several people I know who are thrilled at the concept of everything crashing and this mess we've made finally staring at us in the face and there is nothing to do but simplify how we live.
All of it makes me want to get rid of my car, get a quad bike and go slower.
Makes me want to find a place out in the boondox and grow my own food and learn how to hunt with a bow and arrow and simplify everything around me.
Makes me want to escape from the city...completely.
I know it's comming. And depending on what happens over the next few months, what is possible will show it's self.
..funny thing is, I used to spend hours dreaming about being out in the middle of nowhere and living off the land and seeing if I could survive.
Seems that I may end up seeing that dream become the reality not only for me, but many other people.
It's very, very close now. This may sound strange, but in a way I tend to look at katrina as mother nature showing us who really is in charge here.
The question is are we listening?
This afternoon as I was out and about I saw it. The numbers, 2.89.
On monday I bought gas for 2.50. Today the price is 3.05, that is a 55 cent increase in 1 day. Can you believe that? The shit is hitting the proverbial fan... There is talk here in North Carolina of 4 dollar a gallon gas very soon.
I'm gonna make a prediction here. Mark my words, very soon you'll hear on the news about how some people went into a Gas station somewhere in the US and started shooting up people and the motive will be because they are sick of hearing about how much gas is and seeing it raise every damn day.
This post was edited by majic on Sep 01, 2005.
I can see that happening, people being sick and tired of hearing it and seeing it and having it shoved in their faces.
4.00 a gallon. We are catching up with the rest of the world in the cost of gas.
All of this makes me wonder what it will take for the american consumer to begin to make changes in their own lives.
In the morning when I'm taking my other half to work we see miles of cars heading to the factories with only one person per car.
It reminds me of a funreal procession. Kind of ironic, going off to the factory looking like a death march.
After the G8 summit when the president said that he wouldn't support changes to help the enviorment because the american people wouldn't go for it and it would hurt our economy, I was pissed.
But it seems that mother nature is having the last word on the subject.
We will have no choice but to change.
The really sad part of all of this is that it seems that many people won't start doing anything unless the issue is forced.
On monday I bought gas for 2.50. Today the price is 3.05, that is a 55 cent increase in 1 day. Can you believe that? The shit is hitting the proverbial fan... There is talk here in North Carolina of 4 dollar a gallon gas very soon.
heh, you should be living in my country - we had ~23 raises of gas costs in ONE year. and now some kinds of gas cost even as much as ~210% of what they did before. and now....more raises inbound propably :/
"Life is a queue. You come in, hang around for a bit, get some service, then depart."
heh, you should be living in my country - we had ~23 raises of gas costs in ONE year. and now some kinds of gas cost even as much as ~210% of what they did before. and now....more raises inbound propably :/
Yes but other countries are more suited to alternate transportation than the US. There is no alternate means of travel from my house to my place of work, well unless I ride a bicycle 20 miles one way. There is no bus, no subway, no train, nothing. I either drive or I don't go. That's the problem with suburban US, there is plenty of land and everything is spread so far out. These high gas prices are disrupting life as we know it. Pretty soon we will be on the verge of a crisis because of it.
Yesterday gas price: 3.05
Today price: 3.48
PS - Regarding the free trance link. I did not know 2 of the websites were posting illegal music. I was under the impression it was legal, I cannot find anywhere on the sites anything to tell me that they are illegal to download music from. If you have ideas, let me know.
This post was edited by majic on Sep 01, 2005.
I'm in the same boat as you. I live on one side of town and where I worked was clear on the other side.
I figured out by writing down the odomoter numbers that I was traveling more than 50 miles a day round trip just to go to work.
The places that are closer are mostly factories and they run between 10 and 12 hour shifts, nothing less.
When they do thoes long runs it's generally a four day run.
I'm of the mind that after a certian number of hours a person becomes less and less functional on the job.
I ended up leaving one job because of how many times I kept almost getting run off the road by semis halling ass in the middle of the night.
What finally cut it for me was almost hitting another car.
Subsequently the jobs that arn't factory are on the other end of town, and the bus dosen't come out this way, we have a shitty transportation system here.
The closest thing that I could get to using a bike is a bike path that goes right through town but has no side bike path roads, and it's down a very long stretch of highway where lots of crazy people get pissed off if they have to slow down.
After this last thing that happened, I was employed for exactly two months and because of a series of events and business in the evening has been dying and I was the most recient hire, it didn't matter that after a week I was in charge of the kitchen at night, (and I'd never done resturant work before) the general manager that works for this guy loves to stand with his thumb up his ass, none of that mattered.
What did matter to the owner is seniority.
So another job down the toilet.
And now having to get out there and look is going to be really fun, as the budget for gas is shit...
I'm going to be living in the trees eating leaves..
Back to how fast the price of gas is rising. I agree with you completely, there hasn't been time to adjust, let alone breathe.
If it keeps going up this fast no one, except the very rich who don't have to work will be driving cars.
(If I have to live in the trees, I want a view of the ocean, instead of all this flat land with kind of sort of hills most of the time)
Everything is going haywire because of this.
side note, I heard that what the president released was barrels of crude oil, and the military isn't doing anything down there.
people can't drink the water, and there is no food.
What a mess.
Lots more people are going to die as this goes on.
My question is this, if the president is basicly acting like a turtle in doing anything, and the military is just sitting there watching shit go on, what does that tell you about what's really important to our goverment?
Why wasn't the president down there as soon as possible? Instead of waiting and then making the decision to cut his vacation short. (Ah poor baby, I guess he'll just have to finish that golf game when he gets back...and the american people are paying for this)
He's not good for this country. He keeps proving that over and over again.
I can hardly wait until he's out of office. I'm so glad they can't be in the white house for more than two terms.
Sometimes it feels like some giant is sitting on the chest of every american and eating cheetos while we sofocate under their butt.
Sep 01, 2005 07:03 # 38519
null *** (11) throws in his two cents...
Clicky :-)
The alternative to cheap fuel would of course be be more fuel-efficient cars.
PS, gas is between 5 and 6 dollars per gallon in Europe.
"God is dead." - Nietzsche, 1882 "Nietzsche is dead." - God, 1900
Sep 01, 2005 14:54 # 38541
harold_maude *** (8) replies...
It's amazing, gas prices being between 5 and 6 dollars a gallon there.
Of all the travel shows I've seen on Europe I've noticed something that seems to be very common there, alternative travel. Trains, people touring by bike and lots and lots of people walking.
I've seen some cars, but they don't seem to be the main way to travel.
Am I seeing this right?
Seems that we here could very easily follow the same pattern.
Speaking of alternative modes of transportaion, I've got several bookmarked sights about that subject.
I've been reading up on how to convert the gas engine to one that burns ethonol.
I've looked into something called a quadraped bike. 4 wheels and designed to steer like a car, and it has power assist, a battery that helps with hills. The top speed, if I remember right was 12 miles per hour.
That may seem really slow, but that's a good thing.
You actually get to see the landscape as you travel. What a novel concept.
It reminds me of how I've read and seen how meals are treated in Eroupe. An event to be enjoyed not just shoveled in and then swallowed.
I love watching movies and cooking shows where they show these people laughing and talking and it's this celebration of gathering together to eat, and be together.
Food just happens to be the great catalist that is shared among the group.
It makes me want to have all the meals I eat here be the same.
Can you immagine what that would do for drawing people together?
How can you share bread with someone and be angry at them at the same time?
How can you drink from the same bottle and not be changed by the sharing?
I see people here, in their cars, going into resturants, impatient irratble because it takes a bit to get there.
It is the general custom here to eat fast, eat in speprate rooms, many times in front of a T.V.
I'm inclined to believe that many families would benefit from taking time to enjoy the food, and inturn learn to enjoy the company of the people they are eating with.
...so many things that this country needs to take stock of and change. Maybe in the big picture this disaster will serve a positve purpose. One can only hope.
Sep 01, 2005 20:15 # 38549
null *** (11) mindlessly drivels...
Man, I wish Europe was as perfect as you paint it. What a nice picture that would be.
The truth is, we've also got lots of stressed people driving to fast food places in their cars.
(Our cars have a better mileage tho :-P )
But Europe is very diverse (and I'm sure so are the USA), and if you know what you're looking for, you usually find a place you like. The trick is to separate the things that are important to you from the things you can do without. I think that is what's getting harder, and something we truly need to keep in touch with if we want to stay faithful to ourselves.
Oh look, I'm starting to digress. :-) Anyways, take care. It looks to me as if you have a pretty good attitude towards life.
"God is dead." - Nietzsche, 1882 "Nietzsche is dead." - God, 1900
Sep 02, 2005 03:02 # 38567
harold_maude *** (8) replies...
Oh well, there goes my immage of europe as a grown up place to be.
Sounds just as nuts as here.
Your right about deciding on what's important and not important.
The trouble is the stuff that is important is being run over by people in a hot damn hurry to get to the next stop light so they can wait and get as close as they can to your bumper.
...actually I really wish I could be on an island somewhere, (now that you've informed me that living in Eroupe is just as nuts as here) and not have to think about rent and gas prices and making sure that I have clean clothes for work....it wouldn't matter then. :)
You take care too..:)