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Sep 03, 2005 00:15 # 38610

adlaius *** wants to know...

NAO Anthropology Page?

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Hello, all.

Being new to this site, I did what my natural instincts command me to do in all new website encounters: I looked for an "About" page. Before I ever signed up, even. Who made this site? Who maintains it? What's the geographic distribution of its users? What aspects of the site and its community are people happy with? Dissatisfied with? Granted, a few hours of poking around have led me to a few answers, but it does seem like a good idea (to me) to have a sort of central place where these data can aggregate. Such a page also seems to evolve towards something of a vanity page; one that says "Grab a cup of coffee and listen as we tell you the (epic?) story of this website". Which I think is cool.

Maybe this smacks too much of an Executive Overview(R), and it's probably unnecessary, but I do see a (somewhat) practical dimension as well. A lot of the site's coding and structure seems geared toward discouraging spammers/trollers/etc. And while I realize that some of the basic philosophy is covered in the Posting Rules and related links, I see the About page encouraging genuinely interested participants and discouraging said "undesirables" (who scan the page and realize that they and the NAO community "aren't on the same wavelength", so to speak).

So. I realize that's quite a limb to go out on for a newbie. Be gentle ;-)

Oh, and if such a thing is staring me right in the face, let me know.

"There are two tragedies in life. One is to lose your heart's desire. The other is to gain it." -GBS

This post was edited by adlaius on Sep 03, 2005.

Sep 03, 2005 02:23 # 38615

ginsterbusch *** has all the information you need...

Re: NAO Anthropology Page?

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I looked for an "About" page. Before I ever signed up, even.

Cant read? Need pictures? Wrong turn.

Who made this site?

Jaz.

Who maintains it?

null and Jaz.

What's the geographic distribution of its users?

They are scattered all over the world - and that's one of the basic principles why this kind of community is still alive and well going. But why the heck would you want to know that anyway? Are you working for some government creating new statistics about possible terrorists on the net or what?

What aspects of the site and its community are people happy with? Dissatisfied with?

Take a look into Site related and Rating Complaints. There have been wagonloads of discussions about the pro and cons of this site and also how to improve it.

Such a page also seems to evolve towards something of a vanity page; one that says "Grab a cup of coffee and listen as we tell you the (epic?) story of this website". Which I think is cool.

Could be, could be. But the community itself doesnt open up to you just by reading some 'about this site'-page. If you're willing to take part on this, even if you'd be at first only a mere reader, not an active user, you would grow into NAO, adapt a bit to it. ;)

cu, w0lf.

Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign for a diseased mind!

Sep 03, 2005 05:02 # 38617

adlaius *** replies...

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Cant read? Need pictures? Wrong turn.

Rather the opposite; what drew me here was the fact that there is an assumption of some user intelligence/reading ability, which is not really safe to assume at many similar sites. So maybe the "maddening crowds" have skewed my perspective and made me hungry for a quick & dirty flyby.

But why the heck would you want to know that anyway? Are you working for some government creating new statistics about possible terrorists on the net or what?

Heh, I think that line of work would get tiresome in a real hurry. I think it's just that at some level I've just always enjoyed the idea of a highly decentralized web community. Debian has an anonymized Developer Map, for instance, that I've always thought was awesome (there's somebody in Antarctica, which surely is impressive). It's also to some degree probably overcompensation for living in the United States, where so many people try really hard to ignore the rest of the world.

If you're willing to take part on this, even if you'd be at first only a mere reader, not an active user, you would grow into NAO, adapt a bit to it.

Point taken. And in reading your reply, I think I came to understand the real question I was trying to formulate: Is there no "about" page because nobody has gotten around to making it, or because the community's view on such things is that doing so is essentially just pandering to strangers? It seems the NAO philosophy is "join, or don't, but fence-straddlers (read:lurkers?) will not be catered to". So much of the web seems designed to facilitate lurking, it's hard to break the (admittedly bad) habit ;)

Thanks for the feedback!

"There are two tragedies in life. One is to lose your heart's desire. The other is to gain it." -GBS

Sep 03, 2005 23:22 # 38647

harold_maude *** replies...

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Hello. I'm not sure what I can add to what's already been said, except this: I've been here for a while, and have found even from the beginning that the people who come to write here are pretty amazing people.

Now if your the type who loves technical stuff to tear apart and see how it works, go to the forums part of this place and you will find a vertual supermarket of things to read that other people have written.

If you've a taste for discussion on phillosopy there is that too.
And there are the journals, all open to be read, learning about the world from so many different view.

And if your passion is food, there is a forum for that too...see we're ordinary people, we're not from outter space or anything scary like that, so you can put your microscope away, and relax.
You won't find any men in black here, although you'll find alot of really interesting people here and some, like me who are ecclectic eccentrics who love to just come here, hang out, read and think about all the things other people have to say.

This isn't one of those journal sites where everyone you run into is bent on bitching about their petty little whiny complaints..ie. "my boyfriend ate my dog's collar ohhhhhhhh whoahhhhhhhhhhhhhh is meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee."
If you want that, there are plenty of thoes places around.

This place is amazing, we're like a living library of extrodinary people who are ordinary in that they have skin and that kind of stuff, but they are real in what they write, and that's what sets it apart from the rest.

It is a very classy cool place...and if your looking for that, then you've come to the right place.
Just do one thing for me ok? Put away the disection tools, they arn't nessiary here.

It only looks that way because your standing on your head.

Sep 04, 2005 10:22 # 38661

null *** announces...

Re: NAO Anthropology Page?

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we're like a living library of extrodinary people who are ordinary

By virtue of the authority vested in me by myself, I hereby declare this remark the extraordinary statement of the day.

"*sigh* Some men are really hard to manipulate!" - Orchid

Sep 04, 2005 14:33 # 38666

harold_maude *** replies...

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I'm not sure what to say...thank you, but how can I say thank you when it's the truth, so it's not me that made that, but everyone here who is that...so thank you and everyone else here for being the most extrodinary ordinary people I have ever had the pleasure of spending time with...

It only looks that way because your standing on your head.

Sep 04, 2005 15:33 # 38674

rosyxxx *** replies...

Re: NAO Anthropology Page?

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We're like a living library of extraordinary people who are ordinary

By virtue of the authority vested in me by myself, I hereby declare this remark the extraordinary statement of the day.

*snorts wheatgrass juice out of nose*

Seriously, I feel quite special, right about now. *beams* I feel blessed to be a part of all of this. And just so you newbies know: People here love you like a prisoner. They have your back, they'll send you care packages, give you advice on how to move around in constrained environments...etc.

These people are part of my family. When I get rich you are all invited to my estate in the Bahamas for a mad week of bonghits and nude parasailing. Like that's gonna happen...but who knows. I could make it rich selling jewelry to Neiman Marcus, and then I'll have assloads of cash to throw a big party for all you NAOers. I love you guys. *starts crying* Reading this whole thread just makes me realize again, how much I love this place.

I'm not being shameless, just melodramatically emotional. Nothing new. Heh.

Welcome 'new guy'. Welcome. Welcome.

If mountain goats like living at high elevations, why do none live in high rise apartment buildings?

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Sep 04, 2005.

Sep 15, 2005 05:44 # 38884

zen *** replies...

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One of the thronging masses, i.e. Myself, finds that statement particularly tickling :)

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

This post was edited by zen on Sep 15, 2005.

Sep 04, 2005 00:34 # 38649

Salvial_Ten *** throws in her two cents...

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Weeell this doesn't really answer any of your questions though I've got a few suggested topics to give you an idea of what people here on NAO are like: UFO Area..., Using God as a Counterarguement, and of course pretty much anything on the news page.

Welcome to the site!

--Jami

P.S. HaroldMaude: But I was so horribly bumbed out, I mean, I hand picked those collar spikes!

You fail it.

Sep 04, 2005 09:59 # 38659

adlaius *** replies...

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Weeell this doesn't really answer any of your questions…

Oh, but it does; the links you provided gave me quite a lot to think about. And the UFO thread in particular was incredible—it just about killed me (though I had to use the WayBackMachine to see all the crazy UFO pictures :)

Thanks for the warm welcome!

P.S. Thank you also for pointing me to a new punctuation construct; I found the following several times in the aforementioned thread:

.....which who is to say..will be granted to us....! to reach.

This fascinates me to no end. It's almost mystical.

"There are two tragedies in life. One is to lose your heart's desire. The other is to gain it." -GBS

Sep 04, 2005 18:17 # 38680

Salvial_Ten *** replies...

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Yes, that format of typing was indeed a rather puzzling bit of we-don't-know-what-it-is-but-it's-interesting. However, the thing that I loved most about that thread is the bogus religion/cult that was made from the GFD. A fun scavanger hunt is going through and seeing how many places on the site it's mentioned.

--Jami

P.S. I'm glad you found it useful.

You fail it.

Sep 04, 2005 14:28 # 38665

harold_maude *** replies...

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The spikes are beautiful. You did a fine job of picking them out. :)
Speaking of spikes, I would love to see some pictures of the sun's corona spiking.
When the sun does that does it make noise?

I've been wondering about the stars lately, as we've been going out stargazing alot lately. We listened to that cd with the professor talking about lightyears and time travel, but what I wonder is do stars make noise?
I know there are sounds that come in from space. They use radio telescopes to help see the stars, and there microwaves out there, but the actual sound.

We got the scientific america with the article that asks the question is the universe out of tune.

Just a side note, I didn't know there was a ufo page...

It only looks that way because your standing on your head.

Sep 04, 2005 19:37 # 38682

adlaius *** has a suggestion...

Re: NAO Anthropology Page?

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but what I wonder is do stars make noise?

I thought the Saturn noises were impressive (and the page notes that the phenomenon which produces them is very similar to our own planet's auroral radio emissions), but note that they've been (heavily) temporally compressed and pitch shifted downward. We'll need much better hearing and lots of patience to hear this stuff on our own.

But I digress :-/

"There are two tragedies in life. One is to lose your heart's desire. The other is to gain it." -GBS

Sep 04, 2005 21:04 # 38683

harold_maude *** replies...

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Thank you. The Saturn noises are beautiful! :)
It's almost like the sound made under the water but more hollow...awesome!

I've bookmarked all three pages. I love the picture with the dark side of the sun. Immagine the sun having a dark side.
I know it's the side we don't see and that's why it's called the dark side, but the idea brings much to the immagination.

Just immagine if you could pick up the music of the stars on your radio, how much more that would add to watching the stars.
A living movie in surround sound. :)

It only looks that way because your standing on your head.

This post was edited by harold_maude on Sep 04, 2005.

Sep 04, 2005 23:44 # 38692

ginsterbusch *** laughs about...

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I've got a few suggested topics to give you an idea of what people here on NAO are like: UFO Area..., Using God as a Counterarguement, and of course pretty much anything on the news page.

Yummi - the 'Giant Flying Dildo' incident? Just spell it out: ROTFL! :D

cu, w0lf.

Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign for a diseased mind!

Sep 15, 2005 06:13 # 38888

zen *** replies...

How about an NAO Anthology page???

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I love the links.
I could provide alot more links of posts that are excellent examples of the wide variety of folks here, and there goofy, but deeply-held beliefs and thoughts.

Hell, I've even posted a few myself. ... and that's why I love this site so much, and keep coming back, the inherent "freshness".

*****

On a different note, I actually can provide a little enlightenment on the subject matter that that post was talking about: Nibiru, the so-called 12th planet.
The Twelfth Planet This is an article I posted to Litkicks.com {which unfortunately now sucks donkey balls :( }

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

Sep 15, 2005 05:58 # 38886

zen *** replies...

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What I really like about NAO is it's "non-traditonal" approach to presenting and maintaining the wide variety of ideas and posts that come through here. What you said is useful and practical, but so what?
As you said, after a little prodding, you found most of the answers to the questions you had.

Sections like "About" or other home-spun, folksy prosylatizing about the origins and philosophical proclivities of the moderators tend to be masterbatory ramblings. I'm glad that Jaz and Null didn't give into that over-rated convention.

This site is "about" diving in, and figuring how to swim, or sink, rather than talking about how to do it.
What appealed to me most is the homey, down-to-earth feel that NAO has, and maintains.
By virtue of the fact that it is "unorthodox" in the fashion that you've mentioned, among other reasons, it keeps the "riff-raff" away.
And to my thinking, that's more than enough reason NOT to have an ABOUT section.

I'll bet that just took 5 years off my life--but GODDAMM if it wasn't worth every second

This post was edited by zen on Sep 15, 2005.


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