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Jul 04, 2002 11:55 # 4051

Jaz *** wants to know...

Hard questions of life and conscience

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Hi. Below I posted six questions that probably don't have a perfectly satisfying answer. Some of them are old hat, some are known ethical dillema. I'm interested in what each of you thinks of as the best possible answers. I'm going to post my own answers later that week, as I'm probably not sure of them yet. Here we go:

1. Your child has a heart desease and either gets a new heart within two weeks or die. Assume it would cost 2 million Euros to pay the donned heart and the operation. You can't possibly get any of that money on a legal way. Explain how far exactly you would go to get that money in the worst possible case?

2. A recent lawsuit in the US has been about paedophiles are using image processors like Photoshop to retouch normal (no child porn) photos of children so the kids on the photos look naked. No matter what the sentence, right or wrong in your eyes?

3. You're spending the night with a good friend at a bar. Both of you have had a good couple of beers. Afterwards, he want to drive home in his car. You don't think he's fit to drive anymore. When you tell him so, the both of you get into a heated argument, at the end of which he yells at you that he will drive unless you call the police. What do you do?

4. It is a late Sunday evening and you're going for a walk. You see a guy writhening on the street. He's being seriously beaten up by a couple of gangsters. No one else is on the street and you don't have a cellphone with you. What do you do?

5. You're pregnant with a child (boys please test your imagination). The doctor tells you that your baby will have to live with severe disabilities if you decide to carry on the pregnancy. What do you do?

6. For this example's sake, a big flood in the third world countries is destroying a major part of the world's wheat crop for this year. Would you consider it unethical to quickly buy wheat stocks?

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Jul 04, 2002 13:25 # 4053

null *** throws in his two cents...

Re: Hard questions of life and conscience

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1. Write letters to rich people. Rob a bank (this will most likely fail) or hijack a money transporter.

2. Sick. Any adult who has an urge to fuck children needs help.

3. Threaten to call the cops. If that doesn't help, take his car keys. He's too drunk to fight back anyway. :-)

4. Well, this is a tough one as it could always be a trap.
Pragmatical answer: If the bad guys are still around, they'll get me anyway so I can as well help the guy on the street beforehand. If they're not around anymore, I can take care of the guy and then get help.

5. Grow the child. Because at the time the fetus is old enough for this diagnosis, I consider it a human being (and my child) and thus abortion is not an option.

6. Hmm, I'd say it depends on whether wheat will become more expensive for the third world countries. If it does, the answer is yes.

"*sigh* Some men are really hard to manipulate!" - Orchid

Jul 04, 2002 18:36 # 4054

gentledeepwaters *** replies...

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1. Two weeks, huh, okay I'd hit the newspapers with the story, offering my child up for adoption to anyone with the resources to save him, if they are truly nurturing. Then I would use every resource I know to get to a truly awesome hacker, cracker with money on their mind and offer my computer and name to steal enough to cover the expenses and pay themselves if they can get it and send the amount untraceable to the hospital and doctors in my childs name.....help themselves to whatever and I'll take the fall.

2. They should all be behind bars until they cannot move any muscle......including Michael Jackson.

3. Call the police, if he's my friend, I'm gonna protect him from himself no matter the consequences.

4. Start screaming Fire, Fire at the top of my lungs, act like a terrified crazed lunatic and move toward the altercation.

5. If the disabilites are not going to be painful or the treatment to keep them under control not a lifetime of pain and trauma....then I will have the child....if medicine hasn't that promise of pain free and trauma free at least close at hand.....then I would abort.

6. I'd buy like crazy. After checking the facts to make sure it would drive up the stock.

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Jul 05, 2002 10:53 # 4056

Martin *** replies...

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1. How can anyone explain how to react in an extreme situation like this? If you just think about it in theory its most likely you will react different when you're actually in this situation, because (I guess) you can never imagine all the emotional pressure you will face. Not just your own flesh and blood is dying, you have to break laws to get something going and you might end up in jail for the rest of your own life or even worse. Not to speak of the moral issues with it.
So, thinking about in theory, I'd say I wont pay anyone for spare body parts. Life is lethal in most cases, so maybe the best (easiest??) way to react is to accept the facts and think of yourself. But I never had children and I dont want to have any, so maybe my attitude here is not very common and actually I dont know if I will stay with it once I see a smiling little face that looks similar to mine...

2. Well.. editing images faking they look like porns? Rasing a lawsuit for it? The question is what happened to those pics? Were they distributed? Then I'd definitley say yes, thats worth a lawsuit. But just editing the pics?
If I write down my sexual fantasies about rapes and call it a novel, I even get money for it.. legally!
I think anybody is free to live his own life with all his sickness as long as he doesn't interfere with anyone else. I'm not interested in anything what someelse does behind his closed door, as long as he stays there in his sickness. A lawsuit just for the fact of editing pics? No, wrong.

3. Call the police, no doubt and without hesitation, not even think twice or keep on discussing.

4. Of course help him as much as I can. If he can walk, I'll take him back home, if he cant I'll get someone out from the neighborhood and get the medics called.

5. Abortion. But most likely I would have had the abortion already *before* the doctor was able to make a diagnoses like this (testing my imagination).

6. Stock exchange is a legal way of gambling. Its about making money from nothing and its about losing everything you own. I never had enough money to start gambling this way, though I often thought about it. Its like going to horse races, or like playing Blackjack or Roulette. If we decide to legalize it (and thats the point I'd like to question here!) so why not gain from the circumstances? If you start thinking about moral or ethics in this special case, you probably didn't understand the ways of stock exchanges. Money is not made from air! Everything you win someone else has to lose. If you can live with that - and you must be aware of it BEFORE you start gambling - there should be no problem with whatever situation arising. Take the bucks and run once you've decided to enter a stock exchange at all. But think twice about this, the first step!

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Jul 06, 2002 09:01 # 4063

Jaz *** replies...

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6. [...] Money is not made from air! Everything you win someone else has to lose.

Actually money is made from air at the stock exchange. Economy is a system way to complex to reduce it to the idea "there's a set amount of money. Every buck you get, someone else has to lose." Work 'makes' money all the time. Most of the things we perceive as profit or turnover is simply the size of the share you get of people's superfluent money. The only barrier to a world where everyone lives a decent quality of life is the cost of basic commodities like food and housing.

If you start thinking about moral or ethics in this special case, you probably didn't understand the ways of stock exchanges.

It's the nature of ethics that they are always optional.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Jul 06, 2002 17:20 # 4068

Martin *** replies...

Re: Hard questions of life and conscience

Actually money is made from air at the stock exchange. Economy is a system way to complex to reduce it to the idea "there's a set amount of money. Every buck you get, someone else has to lose." Work 'makes' money all the time. Most of the things we perceive as profit or turnover is simply the size of the share you get of people's superfluent money. The only barrier to a world where everyone lives a decent quality of life is the cost of basic commodities like food and housing.

No, I dont agree here!
Dont forget that most of todays businesses is made *without* money, virtual money so to speak. Especially stock markets and banks only work and do not collapse because not everybody wants to see "his" money in reality but its enough for them to see the figures on some papers. As soon as you start selling your shares the value is dropping, like in the old pyramid game, the later you decide to sell the less you get. If everyone decides to sell or if all customers of any bank decide to see their money in their hands at the same time, this system, the whole society as we know will break down in a mighty blow. Its a game, a simple but dangerous game that only works because of the faith in permanent growth. Once this faith is lost....bummm! Remember Weimar?
History is repeating itself...sometimes.

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Jul 08, 2002 17:24 # 4088

ReallyCoolDude *** wants to know...

Re: Hard questions of life and conscience

Remember Weimar?

Pardon my ignorance, but who is / was Weimar?

Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye opener.

Jul 09, 2002 07:40 # 4093

Jaz *** replies...

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The Weimar Republic was Germany's first democracy which grew out of the aftermath of the loss of World War I. For that time it was a rather novel way of handling government in central Europe. However, weaknesses in the republic's constitution as well as the social remains of several centuries of German history allowed the Nazis (and ultimately Hitler) to seize power and turn the Weimar democracy into a dictorship without even breaking the constitution. The big (huge!) Wall Street crash of 1929 helped that process to some extent, which is probably what Martin meant.

Go read that part of European history. It's really interesting.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Jul 06, 2002 08:52 # 4062

Jaz *** replies...

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1. Assuming that my own heart would certainly get rejected by my child's body: I'd do anything except killing someone. Including threatening I would.

2. Sorry but I'm totally disagreeing with some of you here: Pedophiles are sick, but mentally sick, not Johnny Noxville sick. Wishing them all a life in jail and an ugly place in hell is not making the problem go away! About one year ago I read an anonymous post by a pedophile on some other web board which probably made me think again on that issue. He said that he does feel sexually attracted to children, but his own conscience doesn't allow him to live out these desires. I suppose being pedophile does not automatically mean walking right over and raping your neighbor's 5 year old daughter. Those who do, ok, shoot them. But the rest? They probably live a rather desolate life and can't plea for help. Where should they turn to? Who wouldn't tell them to die and burn in hell?

Every "false" piece of child porn means one more child that hasn't been raped and abused. If these pictures help them to jack off, go ahead. Maybe even help spread them, and bundle the disks with leaflets with advice on possible treatment.

3. Slap him and steal his keys. Drive him to his car the next day.

4. I'm probably too chicken to confront such people directly. I mean, we all do know what Rock music can do to a guy, right?? Seriously, I'd try to get the attention of them, then run somewhere where I can get help and call the ambulance.

5. I just can't answer that. I'd probably abort when my child isn't going to be able to control anything but the blinking of their eyes. If there's a chance it could actually lead a life (like, paralyzed from the waist down)...

6. Yes.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Jul 06, 2002 09:34 # 4065

Ettena *** replies...

Re: Hard questions of life and conscience

Yes.

--What "yes"? You find it unethical or you would buy?

Tschüss, alder Babbsack! Hier parkste richtig.

Jul 06, 2002 15:04 # 4067

Jaz *** replies...

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It's unethical. If they had their crop destroyed, they have to buy their wheat from the world market. Buying wheat will drive up the price for the flooded country, without any "if"s.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Jul 06, 2002 09:25 # 4064

Ettena *** replies...

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1. So I got two possibilities: Either I must experience the death and its aftermath of my child or I try everything, rescue my child's life, but might end up in jail for the rest of my life. As I know of the ongoing horror in the life of a relative of mine who lost her two children, I know that you will never get over the loss of your child. You will blame yourself forever for not having tried to rescue your child's life; on the other hand you are in jail forever (or at least for the significant period of time while your kid is growing up) if you choose to act in an illegal way. And of course the risk remains that you fail, end up in jail AND your child dies because you didn't make the money. Honestly I cannot tell which possibility is the ethically RIGHT one (isn't this supposed to be an ethical dilemma anyway :) ) but I guess that in such a situation with only two weeks given my rational thinking would probably be completely switched off and I would not hesitate to do ANYTHING (including murder I'm afraid) to get that damn money.

2. Those people are absolutely sick that's out of question. But isn't it somehow "better" („better” as a cumulation of "good" doesn't quite fit in here, but I couldn't think of any more suitable word) if they have these retouched pictures than having pictures of kids that were tortured in real life? Of course such pictures – real or retouched - should never be distributed - as Martin says - because they might encourage other sick people to abuse children themselves. And I can’t find it “right” when people find children sexually attractive! Paedophiles must be cured if ever possible! In my eyes this kind of retouching pictures is wrong. Nonetheless would I not punish people who do so, only send them to a therapist.

3. I’d call the police! No matter how angry he then would be, but everything’s better than me letting him die in a car accident to a not-too-small probability.

4. OH! It says “he’s BEING seriously beaten up” – so that means the gangsters are still at the scene? I first understood “been”, so that the gangsters were away..
In that case (with the gangsters) providing I had a telepatic connection to GDW ;) , I’d yell “fire,fire!” as this would probably lure the most people around to the scene. Then I’d run for help..

5. I really can’t tell what I’d do in such a situation. I think it would depend on the severeness of disability. Also, there exists something, called the mother’s instinct (I think), that I can’t imagine, not being pregnant. Maybe if I now say that I’d abort, when being pregnant the mother’s instinct would make me keep the child.

6. What is meant by “stocks”? (Maybe I’m too dumb for this one...) Does it mean to buy lots of REAL wheat or to buy these share papers (“aktien”)? I have to say that I was never interested in the latter so far (shame on me?). Something seems to tell me (might be the telepatic connection :) ) that the share papers are meant here. I don’t have a clue, but I guess if I bought lots of them and the crop was being destroyed, the prices for wheat would rise and I would become rich. Is that right? No, I wouldn’t do that, I think, if not for Question No. 1.. But I’d surely buy stocks of REAL wheat, I must admit..

Tschüss, alder Babbsack! Hier parkste richtig.

This post was edited by Ettena on Jul 06, 2002.

Jul 07, 2002 00:47 # 4073

Hawkeye *** replies...

Re: Hard questions of life and conscience

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1. So what would I do to save my child's life at the expense of 2 million euros. Hmm.. Well I am a realist, so I think I'd talk to the child about death and not to be afraid. Of course I would ask for a loan from the bank and from my father to raise such money. But if it isn't feasable to do, then I would just pray to God for a painless death for my child. I may look back years later, but I would say to myself that there would have been nothing I could have done to save his life (nothing that wouldn't have destroyed other lives in the process).

2. In the eyes of the legal court, there really is nothing they can do about it. I agree, it is sick, but this is part of the cost of living in a free world. I understand that the adults would have quarrels with their children getting looked at by a pedifile, but nothing in the law books prohibit it. Good motivation to start a bill I say.

3. If my friend were drunk, I think I could convince him to come back in the bar, and we'll call for a cab. I would tell him that I'd buy him another beer and the fee for the lift. How can he complain? He's getting more beer, and he doesn't even have to drive home.

4. The safest way to react would be to go the other direction, and go to the nearest apartment and ask them to use the phone to call the cops and an ambulance. After they scatter, I would help in any way that I can (including donating blood). Anything more would risk getting your neck cut.

5. I think I agree with gentledeepwaters when he says that if the baby would be in severe pain and will be for the rest of his/her life, then I would abort. Otherwise, I'd give the baby every other chance to live.

6. Buy! I know it'll raise the prices, but you are only but a very small fraction of everyone else who is buying this stock. It is greed at its best, I know, but I wouldn't expect the stocks to stay the same or lower if I were in their shoes.

Here are a couple more scenarios if you want to answer these as well:

7. You are in a management position hiring for a prestigous job. The experience and education required for the position are very high. None of the candidates that you've interviewed have the right mix of experience or education. Finally, a neatly dressed man walks through the door and shows you his resume. It is perfect! He's got all the credentials, and the experience couldn't have been more extensive. However, in the middle of the interview, he hits on you by asking you out to a movie (he's gay). Do you hire him or not? Answer truthfully.

8. You are the president of the United States. China has declared war on the United States. How far would the war have to escalate before you make the executive command to fire a nuclear warhead at one of their major cities? In other words, would you give the order if you are losing the war, if china was fighting on US soil, if china pointed their nuclear weapons clear and ready to fire at US cities, etc?

"If I die of a heart attack eating bacon, I'll be a happy man." -My father

Jul 07, 2002 16:48 # 4076

Jaz *** replies...

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7. Maybe interrupting the interview by asking me for a date makes him a little less "perfect", because it's obviously not appropriate at all (as compared to asking me some other time). However since we're going for the sake of argument here, I would probably 1) explain to him that it will be a cold day in death until I went out with him and 2) give him the job. This one really depends on the country you live, and the company you work in. I suppose coming out in a Netherland new media agency is a lot less deadly than doing the same in a 200 year old suit and tie company in the US.

8. I'd rather surrender before I'd be willing to wipe all of humanity from the face of earth.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Jul 09, 2002 04:25 # 4092

Hawkeye *** replies...

Re: Hard questions of life and conscience

I'd rather surrender before I'd be willing to wipe all of humanity from the face of earth.

So if they lined up warheads at the US and threatened to fire, you'd give up immediately?

"If I die of a heart attack eating bacon, I'll be a happy man." -My father

Jul 09, 2002 08:00 # 4094

Jaz *** replies...

Massive retaliation

If I was president, I would probably always claim to be ready to trigger the red button as to prevent the situation you described. But would I press the button if Chinese missiles are in the air, which won't do more than annihilate the other half of the globe as well? Probably not. It doesn't matter who fires first.

'Yeah, That's what Jesus would do. Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah.' - snowlion

Jul 09, 2002 15:23 # 4097

ReallyCoolDude *** throws in his two cents...

Re: Massive retaliation

I think the reason why one should retaliate a nuclear attack with another nuclear attack is because if you don't they can fire more of such weapons and completely destroy the civilization at your end. Once, one side has used a nuclear weapon and destroyed a sizeable portion, why would they stop there? US also used 2 hydrogen bombs at Japan, not 1. Why was a need for Nagasaki when they had already seen the disaster at Hiroshima? So, if you would like to prevent such further attacks from the opponents, and you have the capability to do so, then why not use it.

Agreed, it will destroy the other side of the civilization, but it is your security that you are talking about here, its a fight for survival. If there is a war, then not using them and surrendering is not an option. This is not a question of ego, but its a question of freedom! Else one will not survive for long, and will perish soon. If it's either you or them, I am sure the president will make the right choice and press the button.

Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye opener.

Jul 09, 2002 17:30 # 4100

Cybernetsam * throws in his two cents...

Re: Massive retaliation

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I agree with this somewhat. The other side is not simpy going to allow you to surrender, they will take out every military installation and several other strategic targets before they stop. Now, if your country is about to get wiped out, I can see you not wanting to take the lives of others if it wont save yourself anyway. However, if a country takes yours out using such force, what will stop them from doing it to somebody else? I would retaliate only to stop that country from bombing other people in the same way. In effect, saving many innocent lives.

!sdrawkcab si erutangis yM

Jul 09, 2002 19:56 # 4101

ReallyCoolDude *** replies...

Re: Massive retaliation

That is a very good point. Any country/organization that uses a nuclear weapon first is really sick, and what keeps them from doing so to others. If noone strikes them, and just perish quietly, then they will get a chance to use their weapons on other countries who don't have the capability to counter their attacks. The only way in my opinion to counter such attacks is use a nuclear weapon. Agreed, the consequences are going to be far worse, but if you don't use it, it can be worst, as they might use it again, and there won't be anyone left to stop them!

Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye opener.

Jul 10, 2002 04:50 # 4103

gentledeepwaters *** replies...

Hope

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Hopefully, we have all chosen wise leaders who see the big picture......

quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Jul 10, 2002 10:33 # 4107

ReallyCoolDude *** replies...

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Yes, I hope that too. I believe that a democratically elected leader might not take such an extreme step as he/she knows its responsibilities somewhat more compared to someone who has made his/her way to the top with a coup or thru using illegal means.

I am more worried about dictators like Saddam Hussain who might go to any extent just because of their hatred towards the rest of the world.

Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye opener.

Jul 10, 2002 16:19 # 4110

Hawkeye *** replies...

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The whole point of having nuclear weapons is that every other country sees you as being the bearer of mass destruction. The point being that if you are the owner of such weapons, nobody in their right mind would decide to make war against you. Hopefully, the country has enough sense to never use it. I pray that even if things are grim between Pakistan and India, it'd never come down to nuclear weapons.

The radiation alone would do massive damage. The earth's winds would carry it around and it would undoubtedly kill everyone of cancer within a few years accept the people behind a radiation shield the whole time. If that doesn't kill everybody, the blackout of the sun will. "Nuclear winter" is very real. The nuclear weapons now are far more powerful than hydrogen bombs. My point is that these weapons would be the end of everyone. It is a "suicide to the world" weapon.

My faith relies in the leaders of the world to understand that when they give the order to fire a nuclear weapon that it means the end of everything as we know. Hopefully these weapons are just for intimidation, nothing else.

"If I die of a heart attack eating bacon, I'll be a happy man." -My father

This post was edited by Hawkeye on Jul 10, 2002.

Jul 07, 2002 21:22 # 4079

gentledeepwaters *** replies...

Re: Hard questions of life and conscience

The extra dilemna's:

l. In my case it would be a woman who walked in.....Despite her gender I would hire her on the spot. On the invitation, I would express my Thanks for the invitation but turn it down, for two reasons.....1. It probably isn't a hit on me in a sexual way but more due to my delightful personality. 2. I don't think it would be appropriate at this early date to mix business and personal life.

2. Since a nuclear weapon discharge effects the whole world, I wouldn't.

quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Jul 07, 2002 18:28 # 4078

Cybernetsam * throws in his two cents...

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Egh, here comes my opinion. (Beware!)
I hope I don't piss anyone off, as I have a habit of doing that when expressing said opinion. So, don't hate me please. kthx

1. Having a little brother with a heart condition, I can easily say that I would go through any lengths (read:ANY) to get him the new heart. No thinking about it required.

2. Personally, I just think that people like this should be shot. But that's just me, and there are a lot of people in the word that I think should be ended before they cause harm.

3. Being my friend, I would try one more time to nicely get him to give me the keys. Failing that, I would beat his ass down, take them, and drive him home. This would be accepted among my friends, as we enjoy living to drink again.

4. I would probably ignore it, as I don't know the reason for the beating. The thugs could be robbing him, or he could be some punk who deserved it. Since there is no way to tell, I would probably pass it up. Now, if I knew for a fact that this beating was a Bad Thing, I would try to stop it somehow.

5. I'm not sure I can answer this one. If I knew the child would suffer a lot of pain, I can tell myself right now that I would want to abort. However, if the situation where ever to arise, I'm not sure that I could. I like to think that I keep a level head in emotional situations, but those damned emotions just get in the way of logic sometimes.

6. Hell yes, I would buy the hell out of the stock, if I knew it was going to go up.

Ok, that's all of them.

!sdrawkcab si erutangis yM

Jul 08, 2002 17:44 # 4089

ReallyCoolDude *** replies...

Re: Hard questions of life and conscience

1. I can not see my child suffer under any circumstances, and I would choose the advertisement approach instead of harming one soul to save another, so just advertise for help, if some angel comes and helps her out then it's my child's fate. But, if I can not arrange for the money within the two weeks, then I would rather live in guilt for not being able to save my child for the rest of my life then to do something illegal and either end up in jail (and in turn not being their with the child when she needs me) or end up taking someone else's life to save my child's (and remain in guilt for the rest of my life for taking the life I shouldn't have). I would accept either situation - my child is saved or dies - as her fate but would not take the law in my hands!

2. I think the people who are doing so (retouching photos) are more sick then the paedophiles, because they don't have any sense of morality or ethics regarding anything. They are in this life just for making money, and probably don't care how are they doing so, so if they can not do this, they will find another way to create money - like selling drugs. I find both the situations alike, when they create such pictures, it's like they are adding fuel to the situation instead of providing care. If this is a sickness then it needs healthcare, and not means by which the sickness can grow or remain as it is.

3-6. later...

Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye opener.

Jul 08, 2002 20:48 # 4090

ReallyCoolDude *** tells about...

Re: Hard questions of life and conscience

3. I have had a very bad experience similar to this. My closest friend was completely drunk, and he insisted on driving that night, and since I could not stop him, moments later he banged the car to a scooter carrying two people, one of them a very old lady. The old lady was lying in a pool of blood in front of our eyes, my wife was totally shocked, we were in a different car with another friend, and were going to the airport. My wife was supposed to catch a flight. So, she went ahead to the airport, and was shaking till she reached US from India (all the 36 hours). She could not sleep for 2 days till I joined her - as my flight was after 2 days. This was in April last year.

My friend was caught by the police, and put in prison for one night, I did not go to the airport and went to the police station, and also called up his parents and called them to the police station.

That night, my friend's mother had strictly told me that RCD, you have to take responsibility of him, he is totally drunk, and make sure that he does not drive the vehicle, and so his parents still blame me for the accident as they believe that I could have stopped him from driving that night. I still feel guilty that I could not persuade him to not drive that night.

Luckily the old lady survived, though she was in hospital for about 2-3 months, and noone was killed, and my friend vowed never to drink again in his life, but the moral of the story is that I have seen the consequences, and it could have been worse. So, better call the police earlier then later!

4 to 6. later...

Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye opener.

Jul 08, 2002 20:50 # 4091

ReallyCoolDude *** replies...

Re: Hard questions of life and conscience

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4. We have discussed this earlier, I would not try to save the guy by challenging them to a fight or trying to tease them and running away, as there are some things which I know I can not do physically, so something like shouting fire! fire! and making the people in the neighbourhood come out of their houses is a good choice, just like few people have mentioned earlier. Otherwise, get away from there asap, and then inform the police from the nearest phone-booth, because that's the best one can do without increasing the number of casualties involved in the incident.

5. No, abortion is killing! So, let the child's fate take it's own course.

6. Yes, I would consider it unethical, and would not buy wheat. It is exactly like gambling, where you just know what your cards are going to be well before the deal!

As Martin pointed out about stock markets, it is gambling. I am surprised that the world economy is so much dependent on such gambling tactics. I myself never deal with stocks because of the same reason.

Love is blind, but marriage is a real eye opener.


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