Reading What Rules

Feb 15, 2006 10:31 # 41870

rosyxxx *** posts about...

Hotties in their late 30s...

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Nicole Kidman - 37
Cindy Crawford - just turned 40!
Halle Berry - 39
Jennifer Aniston -37
Kylie Minogue - 37
Cynthia Nixon -39
Sarah Jessica Parker - 40
Kristen Davis (the brunette from 'Sex and the City') - 40
Then there's........
Demi Moore - 42
Madonna - 47
Kim Cattrall - 49
Susan Sarandon - 58 (she's like Raquel Welch)

Charlize Theron and Cameron Diaz are both just barely into their 30s. I think they are awesome! Not just because they are pretty, no, but gorgeous on the "inside". But even though it is empowering to point out how 'older women' can be just as hot...this isn't really the key to self-worth. I mean after all, Nicole Kidman thinks she's not exactly the hottest commodity out there at her age with two kids. I think a lot of men, younger and older, would beg to differ. A talented actress with depth and kindness, who is also beautiful to boot. The being pretty part is just icing on the cake.

So to everyone out there who thinks their life as a hottie is over after 30, I say.....look to the stars! --Boy, that sounds very commercially oriented, doesnt it?-- But, you get my point. Almost every woman I know likes to feel pretty, and hates being compared to twentysomethings who don't have to work as hard to stay in shape. Appreciation of an older woman is like the enjoyment of a fine red wine that has been allowed to mature....at least that is what people say to me, and secretly I want to tell them to piss off with their qualified compliments. But oh well.

On a totally and wildly different note... I found a quote somewhere online that said that women were like apples on a tree, it's not that men don't want the pretty ones, they just figure that they will fall, and so they settle for what is closer to the ground, or even, the rotten ones on the ground. It's safer that way...and that men are like grapes, because it's up to women to squish them into something worth having dinner with....heh. You don't really seriously think I believe this do you? But it's funny anyway. At least, it is supposed to be funny.

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Feb 15, 2006.

Feb 17, 2006 08:02 # 41910

Aynjell *** replies...

Kylie Minogue

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Kylie Minogue is hot... and you say she's old? Wow... and she's got some great music. Also, Halle Barry would slay me if I saw her nekkid. I heard she did a bit of a striptease in Swordfish... good thing I ain't seen it... eh?

I should be ashamed of myself.

Feb 19, 2006 04:06 # 41932

rosyxxx *** throws in her two cents...

Re: Kylie Minogue

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Kylie Minogue is hot...and you say she's old?

Old?

OLD?

Old!!?

Bite your tongue you heathen child. ;P I'll be calling you or e-mailing you when you hit my age, which is the same age as Kylie Minogue, and find out a) if you like being called 'old' then, by circumnavigation (and yes, this is the logical way a woman's mind works, so if ya wanna continue to get laid...get used to it. :D), and b) i'll be callin' ya then to see how your 'physique' is holding up. Heh. Consider that a challenge. That's the most positive way I can deal with half-seriously taking offense. I'm rubbing my hands with glee and waiting to see if you hold up as well as Kylie Minogue and I do. Consider that a tooted horn in my own direction. Sometimes I don't feel like be so humble. I'm still pretty, and I don't look OLD, and I'm 38. 38...37, same difference.

Personally, on a less tongue-in-cheek tongue-lashing mode....heh, he, heh...I'd go with you to check out Halle Berry in Swordfish. But then you know why. On that note, check out the movie: Maybe You & Me. Coming to a theatre near you, or maybe not. :/ I'm bound and determined to continue to broaden your horizons. Especially if they include things that are rainbow-colored and OLD. Whatever.

I personally plan to live forever and never age. Thank you very much. My fangs are sprouting, so I must go tuck them back in. Laugh if you want, but seriously, I plan to succeed. My plan is to move to the Himalayas, eat apricots, and play volleyball when the snow isn't too high off the ground. Come visit me in a hundred years...Sometimes dreams do come true. I know they have this past week. And no I'm not telling. I've got a secret, I've got a secret! *does a little happy dance*

Seriously Aynjell, I consider you one of my best friends on the net, but I have to represent for my sistas in their 30s. You know I couldn't take that, admittedly innocent, comment lying down. There are other things I could take lying down...but I think I am verging on questionable territory here. Luv ya!

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

Feb 19, 2006 04:29 # 41934

Aynjell *** replies...

Ouch

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I'm sorry, I didn't mean that they were old. I thought you were trying to say they were aging and still secks. Oh well... I didn't mean it like that, deary... and I'm sure you are quite beautiful. Haven't seen a picture of you yet... we need to arrange that.

I know I won't be sexy at age 30, even. I am okay with that, though. I think I wanna focus more on health, but right now, it's calm lifestyles, happiness, learning and accepting responsibilities of a citizen of the states.

I should be ashamed of myself.

Feb 19, 2006 06:06 # 41936

rosyxxx *** replies...

Pussycats

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No real offense was really taken...it's just that you hear stuff like: "Wow, you are really beautiful..........for 38." And I'm like "Stop! No qualifiers." That's not you, but I think you see... I hope. My favorite one from decades past is: "Hey, you're really smart...for a girl." O_o.

Don't worry. I'm cool. And it's nice to chat with you through the posts. Yay!!!! I hear you on the health, calm lifestyles and happiness. I read something the other day where they said that the secret to a long and healthy life was happiness. That even when you are laid up in bed, can barely move, you feel like ass, and have no energy, you can still open the window and watch the sun set or rise (depending upon your window's location), enjoy the soft furry hair of your pet cat or dog (or stinky ferret), and enjoy the breath going in and out of your lungs.

I find all of that helpful along with eating well, sleeping well, and using as many holistic aids to health as I can, in conjunction with the traditional medecine.

On that note, I went today to purchase some essential oils with a friend, because we were going to make a tincture for a certain problem that tends to come with heavy antibiotic usage. One of the oils was freakin' hellaciously expensive (read 'hella') to the tune of $45.00. Everything else was about $9 or $10 for pure organic oils. Mind you, since you only use, at most, 8-10 drops of oil for a tincture, these oils will last me for more than a year, but still. It's an impressive outlay of cash for tiny bottles of oil.

The thing that made me smile was this: There was another oil that was almost as expensive as the $45.00 one. The checker, looked at it, barely winked at me, and rang all of my purchases. I couldn't figure what the wink was for....I thought, oh my, is he flirting with me when I feel like ass? When I later looked at my receipt at home, I realized that he had purposefully rung the cheaper oil twice, and hence, did not charge me full price for the most expensive one.

Of course, technically, that is stealing from the store on his part to do that....but like I am gonna take it back. I thought it was a very kind gesture on his part, and I wouldn't want to jeopardize his job just because he wants to be Robin Hood. It would be fairly obvious from the receipt to any fairly astute manager, as to what he had done. And I am grateful for another $30 dollars in my pocket to pay my bills. And I also have my oils, and some welcome relief. Finally. The whole thing just made me smile as wide as a kite. It made my day. More than made my day. I so happy. It makes me want to do something nice for someone else the first chance I get.

Btw, off the subject, I went to see "The Pink Panther" with a friend. I remember going to see the ones with Peter Sellers, and now this new one with Steve Martin is flawlessly funny. I loved it!!! I laughed pretty much through the whole movie...even when he patted his secretary's ass, like bosses used to do just a few decades ago. So I'm cool, man, I'm cool. I just have to bitch sometimes, as well as rave about the cool stuff.

So what's new wit chew?

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Feb 19, 2006.

Feb 19, 2006 10:02 # 41938

Aynjell *** replies...

Re: Pussycats

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Well you are definitely smart... for a 38 year old pretty and health obsessing woman. *ducks*

And hey, Little John probably thought you were cute. Yeah it was wrong, but hey... move on. You can do no good, as you deduced, by taking it back.

As for me, I am overclocking my new PC. Supposed to be at 1.8, but getting it all the way up to 2.6 (which is quite a feat).

I should be ashamed of myself.

This post was edited by Aynjell on Feb 19, 2006.

Feb 21, 2006 12:37 # 41956

rosyxxx *** replies...

Re: Pussycats

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First of all, if I didn't "obsess", as you call it, about my health, I would not be here to be online, or anywhere else. Let's just leave it at that. I've had some rather life-threatening brushes, and that is why I take such good care of my health. I've learned.

Some people don't get to eat even a small amount of Mickey D's and get away with it...I'm one of those people. If I feel a little pleased with the fact that I don't look my age, I think I am entitled to that, after fighting for my health so hard. Generally speaking, it's said that stress and illness age you. Somehow, I seem to be miraculously escaping that---but it's not really miraculous. The same things I do that keep me looking young, are things that I HAVE to do to stay well, and survive.

Dude, I love you, but you have foot-in-mouth disease. :D But then, all of us do at one time or another, so I'm only stating the obvious.

And further, I don't think anything in that description of the nice guy who saved me $30 on my essential oil purchase came across as my being upset about it. On the contrary, I was not only very flattered, but very, very appreciative. It's not like money grows on trees. I was actually grateful for his gesture. But I thought that was apparent. I don't think I need to 'move on' from that, I think I need to keep smiling, and remembering the niceness of a person like that...the same way I remember null's kindness, and yours, and Elena's, and Bunk's and so many people I have come in contact with on and off-line.

I think you misunderstood me. I was very pleased with the situation. Elated! In fact.

And btw, I think Kylie Minogue is very hot as well. And personally, null, I think Cameron Diaz looks awesome without her make-up. I saw the pictures and it didn't floor me. You have to understand, I see women coming into work without a stitch of makeup on all of the time, and then all of that gaudy crap we have to wear goes on. So I prefer the "naked-face" look...even when someone is jogging, as the first picture shows. Now that's bound to make you look a little fatigued, especially if you are putting any effort into it.

Not to mention the expressions on some people's faces when having sex can be a little frightening if you look closely as well.

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Feb 21, 2006.

Feb 21, 2006 17:48 # 41960

Aynjell *** replies...

Re: Pussycats

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I am only teasing you, love...

And I prefer women without make-up, seems logical to me.

I should be ashamed of myself.

Feb 23, 2006 21:02 # 41987

ginsterbusch *** replies...

Re: Ouch

I know I won't be sexy at age 30, even.

I exactly know how I'm gonna look like when I'm 30. The same way I look right now - because I look as if I was already 30. At least I get told that by lots of friends and not-so-friends folks.

And anyway: My father's the best example that I'll look still great when I'm going to turn 50. :D
And if that doesnt help - my beloved one will.

cu, w0lf.

beards are cool. every villain has one!

This post was edited by ginsterbusch on Feb 23, 2006.

Aug 06, 2006 18:39 # 43322

zen *** replies...

Re: Kylie Minogue

Well, yes, of course. That makes you OLD as well.
Ancient in fact.

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

Feb 19, 2006 13:31 # 41940

MelMel *** replies...

Re: Kylie Minogue

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Kylie Minogue is hot...

i hear she has bicep implants...

Look at me! I'm a prostitute robot from the future!

Feb 19, 2006 18:56 # 41941

Aynjell *** replies...

Meh...

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She's still beautiful. Heh, but I've seen you too... and you for damn sure aren't ugly. :-P

You make a good 50's housewife. ;)

I should be ashamed of myself.

Feb 22, 2006 02:48 # 41967

rosyxxx *** replies...

Re: Meh...

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You make a good 50's housewife. ;)

Man, dude...I know that isn't directed at me...but it's still ignorant. You just loooove to push people's buttons and then say "oh, I was just joking." I could say so much more, but I won't. So rate that. I can't believe I even started this thread. I should have just shared my thoughts with the people in flesh in blood that I've met in real life, who don't like to say stuff that makes no sense in response, and sling subtle sexist insults.

Remind me again, why I don't come here very often?

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

Feb 22, 2006 04:10 # 41968

Aynjell *** replies...

Excuse me?

Perhaps it'd be better off if you had seen the picture. She showed me in one of her holloween costumes, dressed as a 50's housewife. And she does make a good 50's housewife...

Perhaps mel could show you?

The reason you don't come here very often is because everybody got tired of you overreacting ages ago.

I should be ashamed of myself.

This post was edited by Aynjell on Feb 22, 2006.

Feb 22, 2006 19:21 # 41973

Magnifico *** has a suggestion...

Re: Excuse me?

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There's obviously been a mix-up in communication here, so maybe y'all need to have a quick break, take a few mindful breaths, and remember the Magnifico-Mantra; "It's just the internet." A man much wiser than me once said "Abuse, if you slight it, will gradually die away." So tacite, infantis.

As for those who manage to look so healthy and beautiful even after that dreaded three-oh, I say kudos to those who manage on their own but I have no doubt that at least a few on your list were aided by modern medical science, Rosy. Seems almost like cheating, doesn't it? I don't know, I can't properly see myself as living so long as fifty, and I have trouble imagining how I will look at thirty. I'll probably have ditched this god-forsaken mohawk (though it is, arguably, the least-absurd looking thing I seem to be able to do with my hair), maybe even seen the first traces of facial hair. Or on the other hand, given the hand genetics dealt me for hair, probably not. But I sincerely doubt I'll have the elegant beauty of, say, Cameron Diaz once I've reached her age. Call it a hunch.

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

Feb 23, 2006 00:15 # 41974

rosyxxx *** replies...

Re: Excuse me?

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The reason you don't come here very often is because everybody got tired of you overreacting ages ago.

Actually, the reason I don't come here very often is because this place is not very positive, and a lot of people on here like to extend subtle barbs, overreact themselves because they don't get their e-mails as fast as their antsy little minds want them answered, and because you all apparently didn't do your homework to have begun assuming that the stalking situation I endured was not real. There were a few people on here who actually took the time to look up his website that he set up for me against my will, and could confirm both his identity, and his scam. AND, not to mention some of the crummy and ridiculous advice I got from certain people about to handle that situation. Um. Yeah. That would be it.

But in reference to the above, you are sexist. You have been since I met you. And that's not an insult, it's just the truth. Just like reminding me how I had a lot of issues when I came here concerning being able to stand up for myself appropriately. I don't think the last post in your direction was terribly out of line. Simply a misunderstanding, on top of all the little subtle jabs you extended in reference to this post. Too bad you can't take someone calling you on your hang-ups, in reference to more than a misunderstood comment on "housewives". If you hadn't pushed my buttons before that, I don't think I would have responded. I somehow think you enjoy it. That can be the only reason I think that you personally invited me back here, and then, in essence, retracted it by saying that: everyone got tired of my overreacting.

If what you say is true, then I DON'T know why I am here. I'll just quietly walk away then.

But...........don't take any of what I just wrote seriously, because, to 'paraphrase' you: I WAS ONLY JOKING. :DDDDD

Or was I?

And you are excused.

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Feb 23, 2006.

Feb 23, 2006 03:15 # 41976

majic *** replies...

Re: Excuse me?

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Wish we could have heard your voice on this one, I can't comprehend your tone. Are you serious or playing? Who knows. I've been tripped up before by this, it's gotten me into a lot of trouble on a lot of occasions and it still happens. You can't judge somebody on this forum by the words that they write because you cannot infer the tone that they wrote them in. I could write total shit, play a game and you would think that I am exactly like that and could be somebody totally opposite in reality. Unless you know a person in reality I wouldn't try to judge somebody by some words they write on a web forum. Lots of people play games with online forums and try to be somebody they really aren't.

Do you know if I am a man or a women? Can you infer this by the writing that I've done? Is my profile correct? Am I lying? Do you really know? I could be making all this shit up. See nobody knows unless you have seen me in reality, so I make my point.

We (me included) spend a lot of time bitching about stupid shit and about what we think people are saying about our posts. The point is nobody really knows what is reality and what is fiction unless you actually know the person posting in *REAL* life.

Actually, the reason I don't come here very often is because this place is not very positive, and a lot of people on here like to extend subtle barbs

This is me, but I don't care about how fast my emails come in as you say. I am not positive, I am negative, it's my personality, it's in my nature and I cannot change that. That is real. I am a pessimist by nature and I bitch about a lot of dumb crap that in the end won't mean jack shit. Yet here I am...

I think I can safely stand up and say this post was written for me. I have posted my fair share of DUMB SHIT, DUMB COMMENTS, DUMB SHIT all the way around. Maybe it's a fucking character flaw, I dunno, I'm a damn nice person in reality. I boil it all down to the fact that inferring tone from a post is a 50/50 proposition and most of the time I get it totally wrong as I am sure others do as well.

And you are excused.

Thank you, I really appreciate this...

TONE, I love it and I misunderstand it in the written word...

Feb 24, 2006 01:57 # 41992

rosyxxx *** replies...

Re: Excuse me?

You guys wanna play the rating war? Is that it?

Listen majic, if you had read the full thread you would know that this post was directed at Aynjell. He continually bombards me everytime I call him on his shit, with reminders of how overreactive I can be. He's not capable of simply saying I'm sorry that you didn't get my joke about calling you "old" by association, or underhanded jabs referring to my apparent obsession over my health. He just pokes and pokes and pokes, and even knows he's doing it...that's apparent when he inserts stuff that is designed to be antagonistic, and then says he is going to *duck*. Supposedly to avoid my ire.

If you know someone is sensitive, as Aynjell does about me......what other reason would there be to say stuff like that, unless you want to push someone's buttons, and see if they will respond, and then you can rate them down, and knock them off their perch, when said person, myself, doesn't really give a rat's ass about the NAO rating system. I don't know for sure, I could be wrong...just like he could be wrong about me. As well as wrong in assuming that everyone here is sick of my shit. Who knows. Who really cares.

I know who my friends are on here, and I know who aren't. MOST of the ones who are my friends I chat with on e-mail. And I like it that way. This place only brings grief and stress. You post something interesting....people don't read it. You post something controversial and somewhat retaliatory, and people just jump all over it, trying to rate it into oblivion to show the size of their balls, and then talk about how *this person*, namely me, is such a pain in the ass. Why do I need that, Majic, I ask you?

And finally, even though it should be evident that that post was not meant for you...I'll repeat it. I find you very annoying at times, as I'm sure you find me as well, but I'm not disgusted with you personally majic. I'm disgusted with the whole setup of this place AND two people in particular. It is pretty much with two people. Aynjell and harold_maude. Aynjell for his inability to stop making what he deems are innocent jabs, and harold_maude for the horrible post she wrote about me several months ago, because her e-mails to me didn't get answered as quickly as she'd like. The post she wrote you never got to be read by much of anyone here, so I don't think many people really knew what set me off. Null deleted it, hoping I wouldn't tell her to fuck off. But I did.

And it hurt. A lot. Because I am who I say I am. And she basically asked me if the post I wrote tongue-in-cheek from my mother's viewpoint, meant that I was really my mother. She sent two e-mails asking about that. I didn't get them right away, so she sent one more warning me that since I refused to respond, she would basically let it rip. And she did. She ripped me to shreds in her post. And I ripped her back. And I hated myself for it. I wasn't as kind as Hardballkid was when he got slammed by me, waaay back when the stalking thing was going on, because I thought he was one of the many aliases my stalker assumed. Hardballkid just quietly blew it off, and didn't take it very personal. He's a sweetheart.

I, however, ripped harold_maude right back. And neither one of us has ever apologized to each other. And it likely will never happen. It hurt too much. I don't think that fence is repairable. And it looks like the one with Aynjell isn't either. And honestly, I don't think I want them to be....I just want it done and over with.

Majic, I don't like to be pulled back down into the pot of crabs. Misery loves company, and I don't like that kind of company. I don't like the way people in general just "poke" at each other here, and worry so much about their ratings. I don't like the way a lot of people seem to be trying to scramble up the anthill of ratings, and then hypocritically say that they don't consider that shit important, or that this place can't be taken seriously. The seriousness with which most of you all take this place, belies those kinds of statements.

To be honest, I am sad that I even came back here to post, at Aynjell's behest, because it has become very clear, in a short period of time, that this place just brings out the worst in people too often. I like myself a whole lot better when I'm not here. And I don't get into these quibbles over who I was in the past with people offline anymore....only online, and only here.

It's like you guys (and here I am not referring specifically to you, majic...it's just a blanket referrence) just people up on a pedestal, and then like to chip away at them to prove that they were likely never really anything special anyway. I don't need it. I don't know what else to say...I feel like I am just spinning my wheels.

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Feb 24, 2006.

Feb 24, 2006 02:01 # 41993

majic *** replies...

Re: Excuse me?

Listen majic, if you had read the full thread you would know that this post was directed at Aynjell

I did not read the full thread. I know the post *wasn't* for me but it had overtones in it that fit me perfectly because of the crap I usually do. I was making comparisons with the post and about what I've done in the past.

Feb 24, 2006 02:23 # 41997

rosyxxx *** replies...

Re: Excuse me?

No worries mate. :) I've found your posts very interesting. We're probably all a bunch of hotheads at one time or another. On a lighter note, I know you've written some poetry...and I know it's a much easier way for me to healthily bring out my cynicism (I admit, reluctantly, that it is there....),I don't mind too much 'lurking' around here reading other people's stuff...I did it for quite some time without making a peep...I'd love to read some of your poetry.

And btw, smile for me, because I just got invited to place some of my poetry in an anthology here in St. Louis. I was floored! It's always nice to have things like that happen. From one poet to another...

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

Feb 24, 2006 03:26 # 42002

majic *** replies...

Re: Excuse me?

And btw, smile for me, because I just got invited to place some of my poetry in an anthology here in St. Louis. I was floored! It's always nice to have things like that happen. From one poet to another...

That totally rocks. I'm not sure what the Anthology in St. Louis is, is that in a museum? I am extremely excited for you though. Have fun with it, don't succumb to rules, write what you feel and remember that it's not so much what people think about it, it's about getting a feeling inside you put into a form that can be written and understood. The challenge is writing in an expressive way while maintaining a level of understanding that can be grokked by normal people =)

Feb 24, 2006 03:43 # 42003

rosyxxx *** posts about...

Re: Excuse me?

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The challenge is writing in an expressive way while maintaining a level of understanding that can be grokked by normal people =)

That's so true. But then it sometimes is so hard to convey your true feelings even when you are trying the hardest. I'll do my best. It's a great honor to be invited to submit something. I didn't know that they really appreciated my poetry that much.

The funny thing is, I just got done telling friends the other night, after a painful date fiasco, that I wouldn't be working the beer booth for Word In Motion, the not-for-profit poetry organization here in St. Louis. I told him that I had my reasons, one of them having been that I just too recently got over three weeks of sickness, and didn't want to stand out all day in potentially freezing cold temperatures. The other reason is irrelevant. But I did mention that I have great respect for my friend Paul the poet, the "One Man Riot". He is an excellent poet, in the callibre of many poets I love. He's a lover of Rimbaud. He's also schizophrenic OPENLY, and paradoxically one of the sanest people I know, while being extremely talented.

Someday he will be famous more than just here in St. Louis. He posted a poem here once. He said that he wrote it when he met me. We've been friends ever since, and he's inspired me to write some of my most beautiful poetry. Everyone here calls him: "The Poet to the Stars", because the only people that seem to 'get' his poetry are other poets. But it's okay, because the way he 'gets' you, is to inspire you with so much creative force, just from reading his poetry. He's another Charles Bukowski, IMHO. I finally found the one poem he posted here back in March. Here it is. It's really a great poem.

It feels so good to realize that that group of poets actually considers me in the callibre. It's been nice getting to know people here better in the flesh and blood. :) No offense.

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Feb 24, 2006.

Feb 24, 2006 03:58 # 42005

majic *** replies...

Re: Excuse me?

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I can't comment on why others write but when I do it there seems to be something pulling, pushing and tugging at me to do it. I don't necessarily do it for me but in a way because I feel a need to. For me the grammar, language constructs and word usage is not so much a big deal, the big deal is getting whatever that force is out of my head and putting it into some type of written form. I like poetry so much because I can blankly ignore english grammar and *rules*. I don't like rules, I like doing my own thing.

Feb 25, 2006 07:15 # 42026

Bunk *** is getting sarcastic...

Re: Excuse me?

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This isn't very "New Age Geek" of me to say (not that I ever claimed to be such a thing), but I'm beginning to think that emotional investments via online correspondence alone are doomed, or at least unusually prone to misunderstanding and failure.

"History is more or less bunk." - Henry Ford

Feb 28, 2006 00:12 # 42059

Aynjell *** takes out his flame thrower...

Re: Excuse me?

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You guys wanna play the rating war? Is that it?

That isn't what is happening. We don't hate you, we just all realized that you were reading into things too much. Cheer up, dear.

Listen majic, if you had read the full thread you would know that this post was directed at Aynjell. He continually bombards me everytime I call him on his shit, with reminders of how overreactive I can be. He's not capable of simply saying I'm sorry that you didn't get my joke about calling you "old" by association, or underhanded jabs referring to my apparent obsession over my health. He just pokes and pokes and pokes, and even knows he's doing it...that's apparent when he inserts stuff that is designed to be antagonistic, and then says he is going to *duck*. Supposedly to avoid my ire.

If you can't take a simple joke, then you don't need to be here. Simple as that. We joke, we all have fun, and to be honest, I get enough of oversensitive bullshit from my dad's girlfreind.

If you know someone is sensitive, as Aynjell does about me......what other reason would there be to say stuff like that, unless you want to push someone's buttons, and see if they will respond, and then you can rate them down, and knock them off their perch, when said person, myself, doesn't really give a rat's ass about the NAO rating system. I don't know for sure, I could be wrong...just like he could be wrong about me. As well as wrong in assuming that everyone here is sick of my shit. Who knows. Who really cares.

I didn't know you were OVERsensitive, and I thought that you were intelligent enough to get a joke, but hey... even I make mistakes. You really like to go off on people for really no reason... when we had the stalker scare, everybody that said or fucking did anything you didn't like was your stalker. I backed you up and supported you, but you were a royal bitch to anyone and everyone, and that really pisses me off now to know I was behind you.

I know who my friends are on here, and I know who aren't. MOST of the ones who are my friends I chat with on e-mail. And I like it that way. This place only brings grief and stress. You post something interesting....people don't read it. You post something controversial and somewhat retaliatory, and people just jump all over it, trying to rate it into oblivion to show the size of their balls, and then talk about how *this person*, namely me, is such a pain in the ass. Why do I need that, Majic, I ask you?

I'm glad I'm not your freind. I really am, as I said before: you have too much bullshit in your life. I got my own and I don't need all yours.

And finally, even though it should be evident that that post was not meant for you...I'll repeat it. I find you very annoying at times, as I'm sure you find me as well, but I'm not disgusted with you personally majic. I'm disgusted with the whole setup of this place AND two people in particular. It is pretty much with two people. Aynjell and harold_maude. Aynjell for his inability to stop making what he deems are innocent jabs, and harold_maude for the horrible post she wrote about me several months ago, because her e-mails to me didn't get answered as quickly as she'd like. The post she wrote you never got to be read by much of anyone here, so I don't think many people really knew what set me off. Null deleted it, hoping I wouldn't tell her to fuck off. But I did.

I'm glad you hate me. I really am, it just means I don't have to give a shit about you. I used to, but hey... I don't need the stress, and if my innocent jabs I'd make at anyone piss you off, get over it. It's just words, and they were meant as a joke. I can say "Fuck You" in two different ways, and my father would take it in a way a stranger wouldn't (in a fun way, actually, we joke around a lot).

And it hurt. A lot. Because I am who I say I am. And she basically asked me if the post I wrote tongue-in-cheek from my mother's viewpoint, meant that I was really my mother. She sent two e-mails asking about that. I didn't get them right away, so she sent one more warning me that since I refused to respond, she would basically let it rip. And she did. She ripped me to shreds in her post. And I ripped her back. And I hated myself for it. I wasn't as kind as Hardballkid was when he got slammed by me, waaay back when the stalking thing was going on, because I thought he was one of the many aliases my stalker assumed. Hardballkid just quietly blew it off, and didn't take it very personal. He's a sweetheart.

Agreed. He's cool as shit, and you were a royal bitch. Sure you aren't making the same mistake with me? Only difference here is: I don't take some middle aged confused ass woman's shit online. The funny part is, you can make a mistake and totally fuck with somebody, but I do something playfully, you blow it out of proportion, and I'm the devil? Jesus, woman. Get a fucking life.

I, however, ripped harold_maude right back. And neither one of us has ever apologized to each other. And it likely will never happen. It hurt too much. I don't think that fence is repairable. And it looks like the one with Aynjell isn't either. And honestly, I don't think I want them to be....I just want it done and over with.

I'd gladly be your friend, but this "I'm better than you", and "I can ready you like a book" shit is for the birds. Take that to work, it's more useful for you there.

Majic, I don't like to be pulled back down into the pot of crabs. Misery loves company, and I don't like that kind of company. I don't like the way people in general just "poke" at each other here, and worry so much about their ratings. I don't like the way a lot of people seem to be trying to scramble up the anthill of ratings, and then hypocritically say that they don't consider that shit important, or that this place can't be taken seriously. The seriousness with which most of you all take this place, belies those kinds of statements.

At this point in the game, you seem to be the crab at the bottom. Me and mel shared a casual inside joke and you bitched at me over what you THOUGHT it meant? Here's a newsflash babe: You don't get paid to think, and I'm sure it's for a damn good reason.

To be honest, I am sad that I even came back here to post, at Aynjell's behest, because it has become very clear, in a short period of time, that this place just brings out the worst in people too often. I like myself a whole lot better when I'm not here. And I don't get into these quibbles over who I was in the past with people offline anymore....only online, and only here.

You are mellodramatic. This all started over you calling things out of name. The sadness was at your "behest" (hey, I learned a new word).

It's like you guys (and here I am not referring specifically to you, majic...it's just a blanket referrence) just people up on a pedestal, and then like to chip away at them to prove that they were likely never really anything special anyway. I don't need it. I don't know what else to say...I feel like I am just spinning my wheels.

You are special. Yer a human being with different experiences than me and I offered to share mine. I have a bad past, and you've had your hardships, but really... you are the one pointing fingers here. You are the one calling names... you are the one that seems to keep on bringing me up and trying to make me out as something evil.

As anyone can tell you, I won't hang out in a room full of bullshit. Ask majic, he's my mate, but one of his freinds caused me to leave his (or what was his) channel indefinitely. I wish we could keep in touch, but hey... that's the breaks.

Speaking of which, majic, how's life?

Anyway, you really need to chill rosy. You blew it all out of proportion, and if my jokes bothered you, I'm sorry. I sometimes don't think how others interpret things. Again, yer special in ways I ain't... and that can cause some interesting things, including miscommunications. Sorry, but you know what:

Yer too much bullshit for me. Sorry, but let's not talk anymore.

I should be ashamed of myself.

This post was edited by Aynjell on Feb 28, 2006.

Feb 28, 2006 08:14 # 42068

null has a suggestion...

Whoops...

Peace pipe

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Feb 28, 2006 14:39 # 42077

Aynjell *** replies...

Re: Whoops...

*Puff*

I should be ashamed of myself.

Feb 28, 2006 10:20 # 42069

MelMel *** is unsure about...

Re: Excuse me?

Please, just stop. Let's take a step back from this. I'm going to ask you both to stop, or if you can't continue it pivately.

My head knows that i was only a catalyst for this, but right now i just cant take any more guilt, i cant handle feeling like im disappointing anyone else. I'm being selfish, i know. But this is just an extra load i just cant carry right now.

Rosy, i have so much respect for you and you are a wonderful person. Aynjell, i truly cherish you and your friendship. Even if you dont give a damn about each other, please listen to me when i say your combined negativity is hurting the community. Take it outside if it must continue.

-Mel

Look at me! I'm a prostitute robot from the future!

Feb 28, 2006 14:13 # 42074

eljefe *** replies...

Hear Hear

Agreed.

However I'm sitting here going back trying to figure out how this exploded and I'm still here scratching my head...

However stop feeling guilt. I have no clue wtf is going on but I can tell you its not your fault mel. What I see is a point lost in translation and some people not willing to take the high road and just shoosh. However I have been known to give the high road the finger so I don't think I have any place to talk about that...

Fond memories

Feb 28, 2006 14:16 # 42075

Aynjell *** replies...

Re: Hear Hear

However I'm sitting here going back trying to figure out how this exploded and I'm still here scratching my head...

That's the problem, and why I'm so pissed off. Rosy can take anything and blow it way out of fucking proportion. I say something about mel's looks, and I'm sexist...

I joke at rosy, and I'm making jabs. I dunno, she's way too freaking oversensitive. But yeah, like I said, I'm done. She just needs to realize that for her own good: being oversensitive hasn't helped her one bit, as shown by ALL of her bullshit fits she's gone up in. She's pulled NAO into at least one, and did it do anyone any good?

And I won't take the high road when... god what I wanna say here would be so fucking wrong. I'll not say it.

I should be ashamed of myself.

This post was edited by Aynjell on Feb 28, 2006.

Feb 28, 2006 14:45 # 42078

null isn't happy...

Re: Hear Hear

Accusations are getting us nowhere, so...

Can we please just let this thread rest?

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Feb 28, 2006 21:14 # 42086

Hawkeye *** replies...

Re: Hear Hear

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If the world should blow itself up,the last audible voice would be an expert saying it can't be done

Mar 01, 2006 00:55 # 42090

rosyxxx *** replies...

Please bury the hatchet without slinging insults...

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Huh!???! Whoa. I thought this was over. This is a surprise.

For the record this is to respond to Aynjell in #42059, as per his request that we no longer be friends: I'm not angry at this point. It's been a while since I have been angry over this...I let it go. I mentioned it in passing to null the other day, but that's it. Since the 23rd of this month I've been busy being overwhelmed by other things. I quite simply have not had the time for this stuff.

I think these more recent posts to majic in this thread: #41997 and #42003 are pretty indicative of that. Those last posts actually have nothing to do with this mess. I have other things on my mind now.

But to Aynjell: You've called me old several times in this conversation. You've flat out told me that I basically obsess too much over my health. To let the cat out of the bag to you, I have CFS as a result of infection with EBV that came about when I contracted mono and strep back in 2000. I've been fighting it ever since, and doing much better than the docs imagined. So....as far as me obsessing over my health. No dice. I have to....

And nobody likes being called old. And here you do it again, Aynjell:

Only difference here is: I don't take some middle aged confused ass woman's shit online.

Bite your tongue. *sighs* I haven't even hit 40. We could all just laugh at that one. That would be one option, and a much happier one.

Here's a newsflash babe: You don't get paid to think, and I'm sure it's for a damn good reason.

Yes, Aynjell, I guess my 3.98 GPA, magna cum laude graduation, and IQ are going to waste, in your opinion.

Please people, can't we all just laugh? This is so ridiculous, it sooo is....

To be honest Aynjell, the way this whole thing started was that I was annoyed at your jabs. I had tried to playfully poked back at you to begin with, hoping to get the point across that it wasn't cool to be calling me or anyone old, OR making jabs about how you might think I obsess over my health. That stuff you did waaaay before the comment was made in reference to mel. It really had very little to do with the playful comment you made to mel. Yes, my feelings were hurt, temporarily. But it's been done for some time. It sounds to me like I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. If I say some nasty things to you, then I am a 'royal bitch'. Point taken. If I don't respond, I'm a coward. If I try to be nice, then I apparently think I am better than you. I can't win.??

I only found this post of yours because I actually do care what's going on in your head, and went to see what you had written lately. And it was a shock. It seems that we BOTH have the ability to shock the pants off each other. I don't know how though, you couldn't see the immense amount of caring in that last post to majic. I just don't. I'm at a loss.

Anyway you really need to chill rosy.

I was chilling....

this post of yours came as a total shock. I was totally busy with other stuff, and this last post of yours just blindsided me.

You blew it all out of proportion, and if my jokes bothered you, I'm sorry.

Apology accepted.

Yer too much bullshit for me. Sorry, but let's not talk anymore.

Not a problem. Your wish is my command.

I'm not trying to be 'holier than thou', I'm just trying to smile when I don't want to, but you likely won't believe me, and that's sad. But I could be wrong. I frequently am, almost as often as I am right. Take care and have a good life. :-)

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Mar 01, 2006.

Mar 01, 2006 17:01 # 42104

Hawkeye *** replies...

Re: Please bury the hatchet without slinging insults...

You guys are both guilty for having blown things out of proportion. If you guys would both actually look at what you were arguing about, you'd see that you were wrong in continuing it to begin with.

You two took a lot of maturity in trying to end this argument, but it really shouldn't have even happened to begin with. Why do you two care about what the other says so much anyway? It seems evident to me that if you two didn't care what the other thought, none of this would have taken place, so you must have some sort of respect for the other, even if you won't admit that.

If the world should blow itself up,the last audible voice would be an expert saying it can't be done

Mar 02, 2006 19:56 # 42124

rosyxxx *** posts about...

Can we all read about charlie's peanut butter fiasco instead?

If no one really cared what anyone thought, no one would post here...and no one would read threads like this one as they deteriorate, nor the one I happened upon at #42120.

Instead...they might read stuff that wasn't so negative. But I don't see that happening often enough on the NAO. And the fact that I don't, and go away, and come back, and something like these two threads explodes, while other more positive posts of more than just mine go to waste, is why I don't want to be here. I go away, and people think it all has to do with "personal issues". In some part, yes. But, really, it gets more complicated than that.

I don't want to be a pollyanna, but at the same time, I neither want to see alot of ugliness, nor do I want to be a part of it, if I can help it. The desire to be negative is too rampant here, not always, but often enough, and it gets under your skin and pulls you in. See? It did me. If I were here less often like I was for two months, I'd care a whole lot less about what people here think...but when I am around people that I care about, I care not only what they are thinking about themselves, but about me as well. I'm human. Not superhuman.

But can this thread just die, Hawkeye, please? And everyone else? At this point I am really done caring about this thread. Eventually, in exactly 23 days, my Norton will run out and my DSL will expire, and I won't have to pay SBC any freakin' bullshit fees anymore. Which means that I will rarely if ever be here for a long time. And no more computer upkeep. No stinking desk taking up space. Just a library walking distance away...that I will likely not get to as often. I'd like to spend the last 23 days talking about more positive stuff than this thread, or the one about hating Christians for that matter. I just hate all this hate. :-)

I'm more happy about how yesterday was a beautiful Spring day, and my friends here in St. Louis, and how much I love them. And wrote about it in my journal. No one responds to that kind of stuff, but they respond to threads like this one and the one about hating Christians. I give up. *throws up hands* Not really. Not quite yet...again.

I wish we could all just pretend to get along...if we can't do it for real. Of course, I get along with you fine Hawkeye, it's just this thread. Over. Too many people have paid attention to this crud, myself included. Why does anyone care whether Aynjell and I get along anymore? We are no longer friends. It's done. Some things just end. I respect his request. It shouldn't matter anymore. However, it is nice that you care about both of us, but therein lies my original point.

How about if someone removed this thread from the suggested reading that pops up when you get here? It's done. Done. Done. What about logging in and reading #42058 and #42123 instead? Could we all just possibly choose to read about charlie's peanut butter fiasco, or Disposable Fishspastic's new poem, respectively? Laughing is a lot of fun. Or what about relatively new member mnemeion's #41017? That's a thread where we can all debate about what could be done to make the world a better place, a heck of a lot more positively than in this one.

What say we slide over to another topic? *slides* The irony of my own irony is not lost upon me. I'm willing to , of necessity, make myself a hypocrite and respond to this post one more time, just to suggest that we move this Par-Tay someplace else, and kill this thread. *beats fur stole with a tire guage*

My mind is made up...not like my bed, which is a mess.

This post was edited by rosyxxx on Mar 02, 2006.

Mar 03, 2006 07:05 # 42147

Aynjell *** replies...

Re: Can we all read about charlie's peanut butter fiasco instead?

I'd love to read those threads... but the links don't work. 8o

I should be ashamed of myself.

Feb 23, 2006 05:39 # 41983

Aynjell *** replies...

Re: Excuse me?

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I am sexist? Nah. I refuse to associate with women (sexually and romantically), I guess that makes me sexist. But the reality is: I do not want a relationship, and I know that. So you know what? You don't know who I am, like majic pointed out...

But to make this short and sweet: you have no idea what the joke was, and you wouldn't unless you had seen Melmel's very convincing holloween costume. She is actually quite good at setting costumes and stuff up, and I love that about our mel. Anyway... it's nice to know that you know me, and that I've been a sexist this entire time that you have known me.

I should be ashamed of myself.

Feb 23, 2006 14:35 # 41984

MelMel *** replies...

Oh no...

94% | 3

Holy moly, it seems everytime i neglect our dear NAO for more than two days something bad happens. I'm beinning to feel rather a mother figure here...

to clarify, Aynjell and myself have a longstanding joke re: me being born in the wrong era. basically, i have an hourglass figure so given the option chose the 50s as my preferred costume base when given th eopportunity at parties and the like. i do not consider what aynjell said to be sexist in any form and i consider him to be a very dear friend of mine.

that being said, i also appreciate having someone stand up for my rights as you did rosy :) i'll hold the thought for when i'm truly down though *hugs*

to put it simply: Aynjell, i trust you. you're my mate.

i hope this ends this futile discussion.

and yeah, for those wondering, i'm a hella hot 50s housewife. i did a modeling session for a friend of mine and if i dont say so myself, those shots are awesome. (this may be the huge amounts of alcohol in me talking though :P)

please, please, let's try and hold the peace. this is my refuge. if i cant come here i'll lose myself again.

-melmel

Look at me! I'm a prostitute robot from the future!

Feb 19, 2006 22:01 # 41942

null announces...

Re: Kylie Minogue

?% | 3

Sorry to disappoint you guys, but...

Stars without makeup: Here, here, here and here.
(Warning - these links are not for the faint of heart)

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Feb 21, 2006 01:14 # 41954

Aynjell *** replies...

Re: Kylie Minogue

*Pukezorz*

I should be ashamed of myself.

Mar 20, 2006 12:05 # 42344

Magicdead *** replies...

Re: Kylie Minogue

?% | 1

Some of em don't even look that bad without makeup... more natural at least.. and well, as the intention of those webpages is to say "Stars without makeup are ugly" they've picked the worst pictures, i think they don't look that bad without makeup when youc atch em in the right moment ;)

cya Magic

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

Aug 06, 2006 18:46 # 43324

zen *** replies...

Re: Kylie Minogue

?% | 1

You're right.
Hollywood has its own rules for beauty, and the shame is that it's really unnatural.
We're all going to get old, does that mean we're no longer beautiful? Or sexy, or attractive?

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

Aug 06, 2006 18:43 # 43323

zen *** replies...

Re: Kylie Minogue

?% | 1

Actually, it's not just without make-up, but it's also without airbrushing, PhotoShop, plastic surgery and spackle.

Personally, I prefer many women without make-up for the very fact that she is more real that way...however, some of these gals, well, let's just say that Max Factor is there best friend.

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

Aug 07, 2006 07:15 # 43327

null agrees...

Re: Kylie Minogue

Personally, I prefer many women without make-up for the very fact that she is more real that way

Amen!

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.


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