Reading Music

May 29, 2006 20:13 # 42862

megascythe25 * takes out his flame thrower...

Trend Listeners......Grrr.

63% | 5

Have you ever noticed how there are some people whose idea of "good music" is directly based on what ever is popular at the time? It isnt uncommon for me to see a former Brittany Spears fanatic make a drastic turn to rap, which I would consider the polar opposite of Brittany-Spears-Type music.

I personally am, always have been, and always will be a Nirvana kind of guy. I'm not saying that it is wrong for one's musical opinion to ghange over time, but not based on whatever is currently in the top ten list. It would be more understandable if someone discovered a new sort of music that which they had never herd of before, and decided that it was their new favorite, but make it based on the music. For instance, I like Nirvana because not only do their lyrics have a meaningful message, but the music actually takes skill to play, as opposed to the semi synthesized pop or hip-hop music of today.

May 29, 2006 20:30 # 42863

yoshi314 * replies...

Re: Trend Listeners......Grrr.

Yeah i hate that too. it's way to frequent with pop music.

i usually try new things based on luck, or via last.fm suggestions/neighbors favorites.

it's stupid to quicky race after ever-changing musical trends.

you're supposed to listen to music that YOU like, not what everyone else likes. right? but it's also good to discover new stuff, to broaden your horizons.

"Life is a queue. You come in, hang around for a bit, get some service, then depart."

Jun 02, 2006 05:26 # 42917

zen *** replies...

Re: Trend Listeners......Grrr.

93% | 2

Music is alot like language, it is fluid, alive and constantly evolving. IT is alive, because it refledcts our feelings, thoughts, hopes, dreams, and loves. Music, and language both express (however harshly), our innermost being.

I love music of all types. The tricky part is to identify my definition of music. Mine may likely vary from yours. I posted recently in my journal that I have a large music library that encompasses many genres and forms of music.
I take the Billboard Top Hits as my standard (I have to top 100 USA singles going back to 1946.) I've found that in the last 10 years almost all the top 100 hits I don't know. Of course, most of the performers I've heard of, but know none of the songs themselves.
On one hand, I sorta wondr where I was during that time where I don't know any of the music, but on the other hand, I know where I was--listening to college radio, and stations decidedly left of the dial.

It's easy to point and laugh at the sheep who follow whatever musical trend is being played at the club, or at school dances, etc. However, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. The fish don't even realize they are in a barrel. The people you talk about aren't into music, so much as "noise" to fill in the moments of quiet, or allow them to dance to another song to get the girl.
It's my suspicion that most people aren't interested in the music itself, rather the effect it has on them with the beat, or even sertain tones of the lyrics, or perhaps the chorus.
I love all types of music, and I still require a good beat, and/or rhythm, and vocals. In the end analysis, that may be all that any of us want, those few moments of beat, rhythm, or whatever that make us feel...rather than have to think.
Popular music inclines us to feel, rather than think.

I remember when Nirvana was popular, and they were on the charts. In fact, it says that Smells Like Teen Spirit charted in 1992. I was in rehab that year.
Between all the "Grunge" bands,(Temple of the Dog, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, S.T.P., et al. they overshadowed remarkable offerings by The Eurithymics and Tori Amos.
I remeber when that music was new. I seemed like everyone jumped on the bandwagon then too.
It's all relative.

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

Jun 04, 2006 13:22 # 42927

Aynjell *** replies...

Re: Trend Listeners......Grrr.

I, at one point, tried to be a trend listener. Yep, effort was involved, and I failed, miserably. For some reason I never really could get into hip hop and R&B. It always seemed to tacky for me...

*Jams to Ayla*

I should be ashamed of myself.

Jun 04, 2006 18:29 # 42932

megascythe25 * replies...

Re:In response to Zen...

There was ofcourse a time when grunge was popular, as well as a time when disco was popular. The trend listeners moved on, but the people who actually liked the music for what it was, remained fans. I, personally, got into nirvana before they bacame popular but i like them for thier sound.

I'm not saying that is bad to like more than one type of music, hell no, im just saying that it is an insult to music to just drop one genre or style because it isn't popular anymore. I have spoken to trend listeners that claim that when they were introduced to a new kind of music, they found to like it better, which is mildly understandable, but I highly doubt it that someone who sincerely liked some certain music could just drop it and forget about it so easily for the next coming style.

- rock out dudes.

This post was edited by megascythe25 on Jun 04, 2006.

Jun 29, 2006 04:59 # 43188

zen *** replies...

Re:In response to your response

I understand what you mean, but I realize there's different types of people who listen to music for different reasons. Sure, there's those trendy people who listen to the latest things becuase that's what their friends do, and that's all there is to it.
But that is the nature of popular music, and the whole top 40 thing. This is what moves the whole industry: the "latest and greatest." I find those who fall into that trap to be irrelevant. Looking over the Billboard top 100 for the last 10 years or so, I'm not at all amazed that I know maybe 5% of all the songs. I'm not a top 40 listener. I'm a fan of music.
Then there are those, like myself, who are always experimenting, and looking for new sounds. Sometimes these "new" sounds are ones from 40 years ago. Music and sounds are like feelings, cause they're based on them. Feelings wax and wane, and they change over time.
On the surface, there's little difference between the trendy listeners and myself, we're both onto the "next" thing. This is natural. It's more natural to shift in our preferences and tastes than to live by the motto : "I'm a (Band X)-kinda guy--always have been, always will be."

Ultimately, the difference between someone interested in the dance-hall mentality (onto the next hottest thing), and those of us who are fans of music for the sake of music itself is that we in the latter category develop a sizable core of music that we can not live without. That core is very diverse, and spans many genre and types of music.
We don't care about the type of music because it's about individual songs, and rating these songs in a relative scale, so that the "type" becomes irrelevant. We collect and surround ourselves with all manner of songs to fit any number of moods that we might happen move through.
The music is part of us, part of our identity, as opposed to something we listen to to kill the dead space.

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

This post was edited by zen on Jun 29, 2006.

Jun 04, 2006 18:39 # 42934

destroy_mtv * replies...

Re: Trend Listeners......Grrr.

It seems like kids now just swallow whatever mtv or fuse feeds them. Original music is still around, but hard to find. And most kids dont even try to find it. Also, now that people can just download anything they want off of itunes, bands dont even have to try to make a good, thought out album. All they have to do is make one song that appeals to the mtv audience and theyre set.

Jun 07, 2006 14:56 # 42961

yoshi314 * replies...

Yeah

?% | 1

That is sad indeed. Most people are too lazy to search for new genres and artists. They expect to be given new stuff on the plate. That's how those silly pop trends are created.

Hovewer services like itunes give us the opportunity to pay for only those tracks that we like. Which means you don't buy a cd with one cool song and ~11 crappy fillers.

So basically itunes is a good thing. I wish there were more things like that.

"Life is a queue. You come in, hang around for a bit, get some service, then depart."

Jun 08, 2006 12:53 # 42976

ginsterbusch *** replies...

Re: Yeah

Hovewer services like itunes give us the opportunity to pay for only those tracks that we like. Which means you don't buy a cd with one cool song and ~11 crappy fillers.

So basically itunes is a good thing. I wish there were more things like that.

In theory, you'd be right. But life thinks the other way: Rare stuff which I like to listen to never will be found at iTunes and similar rather popular commercial music download sites. Let's just give the following search strings a try: 'Nokturnal Mortum', 'Dub Buk', 'Temnozor', 'Maniac Butcher', 'Gottlos', 'Bursuknora'. Found anything related?

cu, w0lf.

beards are cool. every villain has one!

Jun 08, 2006 17:58 # 42980

yoshi314 * throws in his two cents...

Re: Yeah

I just gave itunes as an example. I'm sure i wouldn't find my kind of music there as well (dnb, jungle, trance, triphop). But itunes is a very good example of selling music the proper way.

"Life is a queue. You come in, hang around for a bit, get some service, then depart."


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