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Sep 11, 2002 15:10 # 5253

Hawkeye *** replies...

Re: How I'm seeing the future of euthanasia

A woman in australia was diagnosed with a very painful slow-acting terminal disease. She would have a couple of months before the disease would take effect. Australia outlaws euthanasia.

The woman and her husband went from court to court looking for approval to have euthanasia and couldn't get it. Finally, both of them went to the highest court and were denied there as well.

In the meanwhile of all of this, their story got lots of media attention. During her worst months, she was on a bed with boils all over her face and couldn't move much. She was interviewed by a newscaster. "How do you feel towards euthanasia now that you are forced to live and endure this horrible disease?"

Her response, whispered very lightly into the microphone was, "I'm already dead." After she died, her husband told the press that though it was a grueling time, she was finally free.

This is a true story. She wanted so badly to have euthanasia, but her request was denied. Had the judges of those courts been in her shoes, I'm sure they would have wanted the same.

If the world should blow itself up,the last audible voice would be an expert saying it can't be done

Sep 13, 2002 20:03 # 5278

null throws in his two cents...

Re: How I'm seeing the future of euthanasia

And you can tell its quite a sad song.

Absolutely. But it's also a very good song. I always thought it's about a woman, the thought seemed so obvious. :-) Please accept my apologies.

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Sep 11, 2002 18:25 # 5256

Orchid *** replies...

Re: How I'm seeing the future of euthanasia

How much more difficult must a decision like this be if its your Mom or Dad who's lying on a bed not able to make his/her own decision?

It must be impossible to decide that.
You'd always die yourself.
It is horrible to see a beloved one go. The frontier you realize: It lives, it was.
I have to stop or I'll cry again. Null knows quite well I can't remember this moment without getting badly depressive and crying for a long time.
I just oppress remembering this picture. Seeing it in front of me as if it was yesterday always thrusts the stake deeper and deeper. I will never be able to draw it out of my heart. It will stay there for a lifetime and hurts whenever I touch it.
It's so god damn unfair. So terribly said. What shall I do? The pain is always there when I think about it.
It almosts makes me wanna prevent this for the future.
Shall I never ever get to love a living being?

"Sie wollen nichts anderes. Sie wollen kämpfen! Sie sind Soldaten! Fucking Wahnsinnige!" - Noel G.

Sep 11, 2002 19:29 # 5257

Hawkeye *** replies...

Re: How I'm seeing the future of euthanasia

Not many people truly accept death. I mean, some people know about death, but there is a big difference between knowing about death and accepting death. People who know death know that their grandfather died because he was old, and old people die.

It takes a great maturity to realize that EVERYBODY will die from the healthy to the sick. Not just that, but that your friends and family will die. All the ones you love will eventually die. You too, will die. Of course, you might have known this, but you might not have truly accepted it. This concept only hit me 6 months ago. I mean I knew I'd die, but I never really let myself think about it. Death seems so distant to you, because you are young. You never let yourself realize that death is never more than a few feet away every second of every day of every year of your life. Rarely are we ever in a situation where we couldn't kill ourselves if we weren't cautious.

This isn't an avoidable thing, and to accept death is to accept an unfaltering truth about yourself and your loved ones. I'm glad I got this realization early in my life. I am no longer afraid of the great beyond.

If the world should blow itself up,the last audible voice would be an expert saying it can't be done

Sep 11, 2002 20:50 # 5260

Martin *** replies...

Re: How I'm seeing the future of euthanasia

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Not many people truly accept death.

What does it mean to "accept death"?
I cannot understand this expression. I mean, how shall anyone ever accept his own death? That means he has lived his life and doesn't expect anything anymore, that there is nothing more to look forward to, that it doesn't matter anymore if life continues or not.
Or it means one doesn't give a damn about tomorrow, live everyday as if it's the last without consulting anybody's wishes.
Just being aware of the fact that you are mortal yourself does not necessarily mean you accept it. I know what I'm talking about. Though I experienced the process of dying I cannot say I accept it, not at all. I know this might be my last evening tonight but although I had quite enough time meanwhile to get used to it I dont think I will ever accept it!

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Sep 11, 2002 21:08 # 5262

gentledeepwaters *** replies...

Re: How I'm seeing the future of euthanasia

Martin, my love and muse, if you could remember you probably thought the same damned thing as you were being born.....ROTFLMAO

We are born alone unless you have a twin or extra's in there, and you die alone.....mainly because we are single beings..seperate..... a complete individual unto ourselves.

Birth is a transition, death is a transition.

Can you not feel the spirit in you....the you of you....and feel that it is deathless in a way??

Tis true......we grieve for those gone......for our loss of them......not for their loss of us.

quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Sep 11, 2002 21:43 # 5263

Martin *** replies...

Re: How I'm seeing the future of euthanasia

Birth is a transition, death is a transition.

No. We're getting on slippery ground here. I just dont believe in this. There is no "before" and "after" in my world....

After decades of construction my website is finally up an running: www.kkds.de

Sep 11, 2002 21:45 # 5264

gentledeepwaters *** replies...

Re: How I'm seeing the future of euthanasia

okee dokee when we meet up in the next transition I WILL remind you of these words.

quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

This post was edited by gentledeepwaters on Sep 11, 2002.

Sep 11, 2002 21:54 # 5265

Martin *** replies...

Re: How I'm seeing the future of euthanasia

Alright, dont forget to bring along the cookies! :-D

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