Reading Love and Lifesense

We never said that our love for each other is the only one thing that makes us happy. There are other things which make our everyday life happy aside from knowing that we have our love which helps us going on with our lives.

I don't think I wouldn't be happy if I didn't have Neil. I mean, before having him I found happiness in other things. Being with him makes me even happier though. Let's say that I touched cloud number nine with him.

As you probably read, my previous life wasn't so beautiful, but still I had some nice things to live for. Having him is just a gift that life reserved for me, but my happiness doesn't depend totally on him.

Though, I know for sure that everytime I am sad for some reason, he is right there for me and in no time he can get my smile back on my face. From what he says, I can do the same thing for him.

I do think that happiness brought by the person you are in love with is very different from any other kind of happiness you can find somewhere else.
You see, now I have a couple of good friends and I do like going out with them and hanging around in general. Though, if I had to choose between spending a night with them or with Neil, well.. I would surely choose Neil, because he is the one who makes me happier, who makes me feel always at home :)

*If you are reading this, Neil, well.. I mean every single word. There is no one else which can be compared to you*

Well, I hope I clarified things a bit now. Anyhow, maybe I am one of those lucky people who can get both a great boyfriend and good education/job. What I know for sure is that before having him, I had to suffer my good share of pain.

Have you ever read "Pamela, or the virtue rewarded" by Richardson? Well the only common thing Pamela and I have is that we both suffered a lot during part of our life. And, very boldly, I can say that I have many virtues in me. Who knows me (and I don't mean only Neil, but also my friends) knows that. My virtues have finally come to find a reward in Neil, and believe me, I wouldn't change a comma in my life if that meant not meeting and loving him.

[Neil: you know why I always thank you everyday of my life. Well, today I have 2 things to thank you for. I guess you have a clue of what I am talking about. Hope you'll appreciate this post as I put my heart into it. Let's forget about our pointwise divergency, 'kay? :)]

Italy no longer accepts illegal immigrants. Mr. B sink their boats!!!!!!!

It is such a complex thing to explain 'happiness and quality of life' in words... those feelings can only be so much described in words...

Again I am questioning why does an career success not bring happiness? Sometime I wonder, "am I working too hard and spending little time to smell the roses...".

I think creating an environment so that love, romance, and happiness to flourish itself is a skill. When we say a couple is living a higher 'quality of life', don't we that mean they have more amenities and have place/time for romance to flourish? How can we develop such an environment?

Or is it that 'our definition' of happiness change over time? Does man's priority change over time? Initially young poeple are more concerned for success; as you approach middle ages you realize that $$ alone cannot bring you happiness.

For many of you this might be such a trivial exercise, but I think I am kind of stucked here!! I think many of us need to learn more on how to balance our life with work, friends and family better. Thanks to all of you for your insight...

So, if I am asked what I think about quality of life, I'd answer that the quality of my life would be 0 if I didn't have Neil.

We never said that our love for eachother is the only one thing that makes us happy...

It sounds as though you are contradicting yourself, but that is besides the point. As long as you take into consideration that just because you are in love with someone, doesnt make everything OK.

Alot of people when they are in love seem to build this little world around themselves, blocking out alot of important things that they should be dealing with. You are both so young, and if you build this dependency on eachother that you both obvioulsy have, how on earth will you ever grow?

My point is that you need to know who you are before you can commit completly to anyone else. How can you give another person your all when you dont even know what your all is?

I dont know either of you, maybe you have already acheived what I speak about....If you have, then I respect you, because there are 40 year olds out there who havent even begun on the road of being able to be happy all by themselves.

This post isnt just for andromacha/hawkeye...its for anyone out there who has built a wall around themselves (including myself)...not only with another person, but with anything. Objects/people cannot give you happiness in this world, only you yourself can.

Pure Happiness the hardest thing ever to achieve in life.

We should of brought a bag of rocks....

Maybe someone should add that Andromacha and Neil never saw each other. They'll first meet in December. So it's just not possible not to be happy without the other one: They just phone and email sometimes but in fact they have to lead their life alone, no going out together, no meals together, not even a touch. I think the danger to be addicted to the other is very very little compared to couples who are living together. But they also have to deal with un/happiness without the partner. I think it's a question of self-conciousness and strenght of personality.

"Sie wollen nichts anderes. Sie wollen kämpfen! Sie sind Soldaten! Fucking Wahnsinnige!" - Noel G.

Maybe someone should add that Andromacha and Neil never saw each other. They'll first meet in December. So it's just not possible not to be happy without the other one: They just phone and email sometimes but in fact they have to lead their life alone, no going out together, no meals together, not even a touch

Thanks, Orchid... I wonder what I would do if I didn't have you to remind me what Neil and I use to do. I think that no one should make what Neil and I do in our private life as his/her business.
Oh and, how do you know that it is not possible not to be happy without the other one? What makes you so sure that you know what you are talking about? This might be true for you, but not for me, nor for Neil.
Nice try, but no cigar!

Italy no longer accepts illegal immigrants. Mr. B sink their boats!!!!!!!

This post was edited by andromacha on Oct 14, 2002.

So, if I am asked what I think about quality of life, I'd answer that the quality of my life would be 0 if I didn't have Neil.

We never said that our love for eachother is the only one thing that makes us happy...

It sounds as though you are contradicting yourself, but that is besides the point.

You are right. But I wasn't contradicting myself. I just wasn't clear enough. What I actually meant by those words is that I can be happy without Neil, because now I have my friends, my cousins and people I love to spend my time with.
Though, having Neil makes things just that more special. This is the thing that makes the difference.

I hope I've been clearer this time :)

Italy no longer accepts illegal immigrants. Mr. B sink their boats!!!!!!!

Things became a tad misconstrued, I am glad that Neil is enhancing your happiness and not acting as the bases of it, I belive that is what I have been trying to point out the last couple of posts (plus a couple of other things):) congrats....and to Orchid, this battle of happiness is DEFINETLY a questions of one's "strenth of personality"

We should of brought a bag of rocks....

Life is strange after all! When I was young, I wanted to be rich, successful, and live with the highest quality of life. Today, I have big-house, sports-car, college education, and nice kids but still lonely and bored.

What I thought I needed the most is secondary now. It took me 15 years after college to reach this stage. But to-day, I am looking for the love of my life. The luxuries of life, and freedom can only take you so far! To enjoy the quality of life, you also need a life partner who is excited to spend time - every moment - with you.

I guess I started with luxury, hoping the love would follow through. But I was wrong. Earning someone's love require more effort than earning money.

Seems like you are wondering where to spend your time first - finding the love or finding the luxury. There are few lucky ones in this world who can manage to get both!!

FUCK, I clicked on that "Pocket HTML"-Link and lost all my content, when I got back to this page (e.g. Reply-Form).

Well what I said was (in short):
"You create sense!" - I do too, and I say: "NONSENSE"

Neaty Startingpoint:

Paul Watzlawick:"Sense and Nonsense"

resp: "Vom Unsinn des Sinns und vom Sinn des Unsinns"
(Original Caption)
ISBN:3-492-21824-5
About 8€

N8 - Damn am I sleepy... :-/

P!=NP

Elena and I are very happy for no other reason other than the fact that the temptation to seek other companionship simply isn't there. I would like it if we were together of course, but just because we aren't, it doesn't make me unhappy as it would other people. Physical love doesn't make up a relationship. Sex between two people and nothing more is no way to sustain a long-lasting relationship. Physical love is the only thing Elena and I don't have together (as of yet), so if we have everything else, why shouldn't we stay together?

For the record, I don't particularly appreciate our relationship being discussed as some quest for happiness to be disputed. Most of you probably didn't realize that, and I'm not blaming you for that. However, I would appreciate it if we were discussing a long distance relationship in the most general of cases.

If the world should blow itself up,the last audible voice would be an expert saying it can't be done