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What is magnetic pole reversal exactly? In 1962, a man named Hess was trying to prove sea floor spreading theory. Huge mountains were found in the middle of the ocean (biggest in the world in some parts), and his theory was that basalt lava came up there and cooled, and later pushed the outer basalt layers further apart like in this picture:
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I'm getting to a point, don't worry. In this theory, the newest rock would be right where it forms at the crack and the oldest rock would be furthest away from the crack. At the time, it was difficult to test the age of a rock through drilling and such, so another method had to be formed.
Layers of rock with relative distances from the crack were oriented different ways to become magnets. While the lava cools, the rock orients itself towards the magnetic north. Well, turns out the magnetism of the poles CHANGE over the course of around 2000 years. In other words, magnetic north is sometimes north and other times south depending on the period of the earth's history.
Nobody knows why the magnetic north switches sides every 2000 years or so, but this was used like the rings in a tree to determine the age of rocks away and near the crack which supported Hess's theory that we use today. We've been so used to magnetic north for so long, it hasn't crossed our minds to think it hasn't always been that way. In fact, we are long overdue for a magnetic reversal. It has been 6000 years since the last one.
Scientists suggest that the magnetic reversal is happening now! Over the last decade, the magnetism has reduced by 10%, and at this rate, magnetism will be nonexistant within 90 years or so. Who cares right? Well there has been a very noticeable trend of extinctions and evolutions associated with these magnetic reversals. Half-way when the magnetism is 0 on its way to reversal, there won't be anything to block the sun's rays, and the UV rate will be incredibly high. This is why, they think, that the ozone layer is being depleted slowly.
Throughout written human history, we haven't had one of these occur in so long that we dont' know what to expect. Could this magnetic reversal trigger the extinction of some species? Or even more ingreguing, could this trigger the evolution of species? Is evolution possible, and is this the missing piece of the puzzle?
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This post was edited by Hawkeye on Nov 14, 2002.
Hmmmmmm from what I've read, they haven't really found much effect of it in the fossils, etc. from the other instances.
Since the liquid outer core of earth, mostly iron, moving around is the basis of the electrical magnetic that creates our magnet, I'm wondering if the shape of earth itself may have a bit to do with it.
Now that the ice age has melted off....earth is kinda reforming itself from the kinda pear shaped southern bottom heavy shape she's been in.
We are essentially a gyro-whipping around out here....and one that is not a perfect sphere. We get tipped at certain times, get us a bit of a wobble going on. Got Quasars out there affecting our axis, the moon and sun pulling on us, the solar wind kinda thin then thick at times pushing and forming our atmosphere and magnetic field. And we can't know, yet, the changes happening in their neighborhoods that effect them. Lol.....giving us a tail, too, which (play on words here) hasta be kinda a drag at times.
Our core isn't even a nice round sphere...kinda elliptisoid.
Granted, it is a frightingly fast change of nature by all accounts..
Insects and animals that use the poles for direction and distance....will adapt I bettcha.
We are seeing more ummmmmmmm action in plates and volcanoes etc. A planet in a aging spurt??
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Just an interesting note: due to the pole switching, what we actually see as north on a compass is magnetic south. And the magnetic south is 17 degrees off true north.
One species that would be affected by a pole switch is homing pigeons. They actually navigate by magnetism. If the poles reversed, they would all end up in the wrong place.
On the other hand, a pole switch might be a subtle, drawn-out process, so evolution would have a chance to gradually change homing pigeons to deal with new circumstances.
No doubt there would be other, similar cases. But if the poles change rapidly, then it is possible that the dramatic change in environment would be catastrophic.
Not to mention the effects on compass-makers.
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Not to mention the effects on compass-makers.
You don't have to worry about them. They are going to have a great time fixing everyone's compasses. Just like the Y2K bug fixes before the new millenuim, every compass-maker will make a lot of money fixing the MPR bug (Magnetic Pole Reversal bug) :) by switching the labels from N to S, and from S to N and so on.
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They are going to have a great time fixing everyone's compasses.
Exactly. I have no doubt that they will earn a great deal of money.
Sheesh. One would think that I said that compass makers would become extinct.
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No doubt there would be other, similar cases. But if the poles change rapidly, then it is possible that the dramatic change in environment would be catastrophic.
You're wrong. A rapid change would be less catastrophic - the fact is the change will not be rapid - the change is already occuring.
It is possible to measure areas in the southern hemisphere with magnetic properties that are north aligned and similaraly in the northern hemisphere southerly aligned magnetic areas. There are in effect areas of magnetic anomoly on each hemisphere. These areas are growing and increasing in number. Eventually their strength will be such that there will in effect be several magnetic poles (compass manufacturers aren't going to be able to do shizz about that). The switch will take just as long to finish with areas gradually becoming all south - or all north - and the anomolous areas disappearing. All this could take a thousand years or so.
Over this period protection from charged solar particles will be negligable - currently the aurora at the poles are caused by these particles being funneled by the magnetic influence of the earth to these areas and then producing light as they ionise the atmosphere. There will in fact be numerous aurora at each of the unstable magnetic poles.
Thanks for this very visual explanation.
There are in effect areas of magnetic anomoly on each hemisphere
What is the nature of such anomalies? Do they center around a given point or is a whole area acting as a magentic pole?
Eventually their strength will be such that there will in effect be several magnetic poles
How far would that effect be noticable? Isn't their strength negligible compared to the "real" pole, unless you're standing very close to such an area?
These areas are growing and increasing in number.
How must I imagine standing on the outer edges of such an area? Do they have sharp edges anyway?
Sorry for all these questions. I'm curious.
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What is the nature of such anomalies? Do they center around a given point or is a whole area acting as a magentic pole?
Imagine a contour map - magnetic strength and orientation can be visualised using these contours. In a normal alignment the northern and southern poles would be the strongest orientiented to magnetic south and north (obviously). Over time the 'border' between north and south along the magnetic equator becomes less clear - the countours become curved such that southerly aligned areas move north and vice versa. Now imagine areas that curve so much that they form a completely seperately aligned area within a hemisphere. You would have an anomly within one of the hemispheres. The effect of which is to negate the aggregate magnetic field - hence the magnetic field appears weaker.
How far would that effect be noticable? Isn't their strength negligible compared to the "real" pole, unless you're standing very close to such an area?
You would have aurora at each of these poles - hence it would be very noticeable. There would no longer be a real pole as the aggregrate magnetic force would no longer have a strong alignment.
How must I imagine standing on the outer edges of such an area? Do they have sharp edges anyway?
It would be gradual - you would not have an area of exceedingly high northern alignment sitting in the middle of an area of exceedingly high southernly alignment - naturally would would expect them to interface as they would interact.
Since we, have no effect upon the movements of the Globe, Earth.
Seeing the Earth in empty space, floating being effected only by the Sun & Moon...Its magnetic movements, which are unseen & not seen as edges or as lines but a force, picture the Earth as a ball of water floating in space & the Sun a ball of Fire. Floating in space, effecting the waterball & its movements, its magnetic core, yet understanding still, nothing on the planet has effect on these forces at all, While the Sun itself, changing Its magnetic poles, It seems - "the whole solar system" is a free moving topsy turvsy, functioning Storm, "if you will" While spinning round...its insides also are free moveing parts of this whole wheel or "Solar System" (Which by the way has no name, or if so, please let me know.)
What & where could we see or find the center...edge...fixed..or moving to another point?...but in the understanding the effect of the Suns reversal on the Earth's Core.? And the reasoning behind the Event.
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This post was edited by alx on Jun 12, 2003.
Hmm... I thought the magnetic pole reversal occured once every 20,000 years, not 2000... but maybe I am wrong
I know the north/south orientation of the sky changes every 20000 years (in 20000 years, people in the Southern Hemisphere will see the "North Star" over the South Pole); could this be linked?
And Alx, could you please expain your post... I got lost, and couldn't understand what you were saying
P.S. Does this mean we rename the poles? or re-learn what North and South mean? ;)
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This post was edited by Anduril on Jun 12, 2003.
know the north/south orientation of the sky changes every 20000 years (in 20000 years, people in the Southern Hemisphere will see the "North Star" over the South Pole); could this be linked?
The precession of the earth cannot be linked - it is very much a stable predictable phenomena which has a definite time period whilst magnetic reversal is not.
Does this mean we rename the poles? or re-learn what North and South mean?
Neither you nor I will be around for one. For another for a considerable period of time there will be no definitive north or south pole whatever you label it.
Im figuring, the actuall Event, Not the effects on the Earth.
Such as will or won't it happen, if every 20,000 or 2,000 years ? Which is debatable itself. Since the Sun Switches Poles frequently, scientist say. Events on earth, such as us,compasses,life & death have NO effect on Magnetic Poles. When your out in space, looking at our Sorlar System, from any point, there is no north or south, its a term, invented by Man. Yet there is positive and negitive, which eXists in the Earth as well as the Sun & probally in other planets as well. Now if you bring 2 magnets together, depending of which ends of the magnet are closing in on one other...they will stick or repel...you following me..? So if they repel each other ...the lesser or smaller of the 2 will rotate. "Core of the Earth"
So it stands to reason, the Sun having its magnetic poles switching often, so say scientist's, & all planets in the solar system of our sun, being compared to the workings of One Huge Wheel, with the core of our Earth in question, doing a magnetic flip flop , & all this being said to be a natural process, whether over 20 or 2 thousand years, again, North & South are NOT Fixed...thou they have been over the corse of Our known History . Yet we are tiny compared to the spand of our galaxy & the unreachable knowledge & secrets it holds.
Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx
Jun 11, 2003 06:38 # 12919
alx ** (2) has all the information you need...
If we are out in space there is no North or South, maybe positave and negative, Yet the Sun, reading other works, has changed poles recently. If we are to understand, so many complex theries of our solar system, maybe we should realize that solar systems are like storms, if you will, hurricanes. In man's time they are short lived, yet in the spand of time itself, Some solar systems have begun to die, and some are just yet forming. We live in one that is going full force, where we are secure. If to understand, all things come to an end, yet at the same time the Universe is Eternal, Why then is a change, such as a Magnetic Pole Switch such a surprise ?
All thru history, know history, We ask where did such things as the ancients go ? Yet we dont realize, our time is but an instant in the spand of such, as is even with our mysterious planet Earth !
We are fortunate to live in a time where knowledge is shared,& is so vast. Yet things we don't full understand yet, like magnetic pole switch, why, when, all the unknown facts my never be known.
Its the wonder of it all, even knowing about it. Where as some, are not even interested.
So in short, I think its going to happen, or it could happen, but im no scientist !
Trusting if what you know is good. Trusting in ONLY what you know is dangerious. Alx
This post was edited by alx on Jun 11, 2003.